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04-06-2018, 09:05 AM

A first round pick in a CB won't have any impact on the 2018 season...I'm not willing to see that draft capital spent on a red shirt season...

04-06-2018, 10:00 AM

We lost one interior lineman, two others are coming off injury...I think G is the way to go based on potential value and need...

04-06-2018, 12:29 PM

Umless I am mistaken, we lost two OL this offseason (Sirles and Berger) and we signed two (Andrews and Compton). Frankly, I don't know if we are better, worse, or the same after that swap. Even if that swap was even, we are probably better at OL now just due to the expected development from Hill, Isidora, and Collins.

But assuming Newman retires and with Brock gone, what do we have besides Rhodes and Waynes? To be fair, I assume that Mac continues to develop. But who comes in when teams go 4 wide? Sherels? Tocho? A 5th round rookie? Maybe the plan is to sign a veteran FA CB after the draft? I know we were interested in Callahan, but Chicago will simply match any contract we sign him to. Who is left and how much will it cost?

Our roster is such that we do not have a desperate need at any position, so we have lots of flexibility. I won't hate an OL pick in the first, but I think it will depend on what the expected drop off will be in the second at these positions. I think the number of people who can play man coverage is pretty small and they are in big demand.

04-06-2018, 12:30 PM

I don't know about you guys, but I sure don't want to see Trevor Siemian anywhere but on the sidelines holding a clipboard this season. I'd say in light of the 84 million dollar investment that was just made, it would seem prudent to select an OL with the first pick to protect said investment.
Just ask the Packers how bad it sucks to start a backup for the bulk of the season...

04-06-2018, 01:22 PM

Quote: @"BarrNone55" said:
We lost one interior lineman, two others are coming off injury...I think G is the way to go based on potential value and need...

If guard is the best player on the board, I'm on board. But if it's tackle, I go tackle. I guess that means I just agree with what Zimmer said about this. Remmers versatility (if you can call it that) gives us that flexibility. My only caveat is that I tend to think Remmers could be a pretty damn good guard. Not sure he'll ever be a damn good tackle.

I'm even OK with a center if it comes to that (Ragnow, Daniels, Price). As good as Elflein was on the pivot, I think he can be an even better guard. My problem with Hernandez is that he may not have the athleticism Flip needs to run this "moving" offense.

04-06-2018, 02:05 PM

Quote: @MarkSP18 said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

Will Hernandez - G - MinersNFL.com Analyst Bucky Brooks believes that UTEP G Will Hernandez could be a "missing" piece for the Vikings.
Hernandez is consistently grades as one of the best guards in the class, and if not for the ridiculousness that is Quenton Nelson he might be at the top. "The offensive line was vastly improved last season, but there is still a need for an upgrade at the guard position," writes Brooks. "Hernandez is a mauling run blocker and he's surprisingly nimble in pass protection. His physicality is a perfect fit for a team looking to close out wins with the running game." The only question is whether or not he'll still be around when Minnesota makes their 30th pick, so they may need to trade up to procure his services.

Source: NFL.com Apr 3 - 10:05 PM
I'm not seeing another prospect mocked to the Vikings more than the plus sized G...if you're going to have a dump truck on the line, RG is the place to plop one in...
I do not think putting hernandez at right guard is a good idea.

http://utepathletics.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=250

Started all 49 games played during career at the left guard position

I would hope they put him right where he has been over his collegiate career.

Moving him is a gamble and a guess. Like what they did with Fusco.

But they moved Fusco from Center to RG after they drafted him, and he did well.

04-06-2018, 02:06 PM

Quote: @prairieghost said:
I don't know about you guys, but I sure don't want to see Trevor Siemian anywhere but on the sidelines holding a clipboard this season. I'd say in light of the 84 million dollar investment that was just made, it would seem prudent to select an OL with the first pick to protect said investment.
Just ask the Packers how bad it sucks to start a backup for the bulk of the season...

Why not just ask the Vikings.

04-06-2018, 07:47 PM

I think the Vikings will be looking at other positions than OG for their #1, but he helped himself immensely at the combine. His 5.15 40 was as shocking as Vea's and Payne's. Everybody had him down for a 5.4+, and he blew those estimates out the door. Some had him cracking a 5.1.

This guy is not a turtle. He can move. He may not have been a pulling guard in college, but if the Vikings were to draft him, I see him as an instant starter, they have nobody on the roster that could beat him out.

04-07-2018, 01:48 AM

Quote: @MaroonBells said:

@"BarrNone55" said:
We lost one interior lineman, two others are coming off injury...I think G is the way to go based on potential value and need...
If guard is the best player on the board, I'm on board. But if it's tackle, I go tackle. I guess that means I just agree with what Zimmer said about this. Remmers versatility (if you can call it that) gives us that flexibility. My only caveat is that I tend to think Remmers could be a pretty damn good guard. Not sure he'll ever be a damn good tackle.

I'm even OK with a center if it comes to that (Ragnow, Daniels, Price). As good as Elflein was on the pivot, I think he can be an even better guard. My problem with Hernandez is that he may not have the athleticism Flip needs to run this "moving" offense.

I would be careful moving Elflein. He plays with good leverage but he will need to get stronger to anchor well enough. They hid the issue a bit last year by giving him guard help or pulling him.

In this years draft class the talent at OT drops off quick but you'll find day one starters at OG/C all the way through the top of the 3rd. Remember, even when O-line was a massive need last off-season they waited until the 3rd to grab Elflein. I could see them passing on O-line in the first if McGlinchey, Williams and Wynn are off the board. The drop-off between Hernandez and Ragnow/Corbett/Smith isn't all that large.

04-07-2018, 06:15 AM

@"Geoff Nichols", do you think the Vikings need to spend an early pick to get a good man corner or could they develop an insurance plan for Waynes or Alexander with a 3rd-5th round pick? Also, is there any chance they go after a DE or S in the 1st round? I feel like we need another pass rusher in the mix, though maybe that is more of an interior than edge rusher. Also, would Ronnie Harrison be a good safety to pair with Harrison Smith?