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Zimmer: More recovery needed for Bridgewater
#31
I've typed Zimmerman before by accident. Both names are German. The word "zimmer" means "room." Zimmerman means, literally, "room man." Or man who makes rooms. A carpenter. 
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#32
It's clear to me that soemthing happened between Teddy playing and this news.  teddy was radio silent for several weeks just after tghe new year. I wonder if he agrivated the knee during rehab or practice on his own and has since had to take it easy?  Regardless, he looks to onde day be fully healed. Someone will give him a chance one day and there will be a story. he is just too special of a person to not get another chance.  If he was a perinneal starter it would be great for the league. Time will tell.
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#33
Quote: @mgobluevikes said:
@StickyBun said:
@mgobluevikes said:
@StickyBun said:
@mgobluevikes said:
Well, if he put Teddy out there when not physically ready, that would be 2 times in one season, and even if it was done out of love for the guy, it's inexcusable. He nearly got Sam killed in Chicago, and could have cost us a game. Frankly, this is one of my issues with Zimmer. He was so bent on not having Case lead that offense, he was willing to take a major risk with Sam's health and the team's standing to prove his point.

I'm willing to bet that Zimmerman made the call to take Teddy off the PUP list to try to save his career with the team. Sugarman took Zim aside and told him you can dress Teddy, but you really shouldn't play him, and he did it anyway after what he thought he saw in practice. Afterwards, I bet Sugarman laid it out for him under no uncertain terms that he could have really messed that up in a huge way.
This is complete conjecture on your part. You've created your own narrative here. 

This isn't the first time I've seen you call him 'Zimmerman'. What's up? 
It was late. Zimmerman always seems to roll off the fingers. Too many years of that other great Viking on the brain. Sorry. As for conjecture; of course it is, but give me a better explanation of how Teddy gets inserted in a game and mysteriously gets put on inactive shortly thereafter, especially in light of this new information that "Zimmer" just dropped.

What wasn't conjecture was how he handled the Sam situation. That half  in Chicago bordered on negligence.
You're making assumptions. The medical staff may have cleared him, in fact I'm sure they did. But maybe there was a small setback, a tweak. We don't know but I can make assumptions along those lines also. 

The guy's name is Mike Zimmer....not even Mike 'Zimmer'. When I see someone put Zimmerman on it, which probably was the name originally at some point in his family's history (which you know, German-Jewish), and then keeps referencing it in a smartass way, it smacks a little anti-semetic. Want to give you the benefit of the doubt....but you aren't making it easy.
Holy Shit man. Now who's making assumptions, and full of conjecture? You just hit the grand slam. That's got to be the biggest reach for bullshit I've read on this board. and there have been some doozies over the years.  your dog picture kinda looks like a Pomeranian. German origin if I'm not mistaken, big personality, big allegiance among their owners. hmmm... Yeah, I guess it would stand to reason that you must be a Nazi. Dumbass...
knock it off.  I agreed it was a bit of a stretch,  but he was explaining why he was being sensitive to the mis-spelling and not actually labeling you.  

as far as you fictional narrative, its your opinion and entitled to it.

lets keep the name calling out of here though.
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#34
Quote: @Jor-El said:
@greediron said:
@Jor-El said:
@Neptizzle said:
I will forever wish the best for teddy (except against the vikes). this kid deserved better (not a blown up knee). Something just doesn't add up - a nonplant leg blowing up in noncontact drills? him not even saying goodbye to the team that drafted him and helped him recover? hmmm... anyway. GUMP had something special about him, its just to bad it had to turn out this way.
Good point about Bridgewater not sending any kind of farewell message to the Vikings team and fans. Very clear he left in a bad mood, probably because the Vikings were being honest about his future.
Where did you hear this.  Zimmer said Teddy texted him and he replied wishing him well.
That's good. But did you see any public message from Bridgewater, something like, "Thanks to all you Vikings fans for all the cheers and cards to my hospital etc"? Like what Cousins sent to Redskins fans?
Is it required?  Maybe we expected it from Teddy because of what kind of guy he seemed to be.  But maybe the emotions weren't there at that time.

Guess it goes to the way a guy wore his hat, kind of hard to believe, but some speculate and inject all kinds of feelings into a situation based on their assumptions.
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#35
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@mgobluevikes said:
@StickyBun said:
@mgobluevikes said:
@StickyBun said:
@mgobluevikes said:
Well, if he put Teddy out there when not physically ready, that would be 2 times in one season, and even if it was done out of love for the guy, it's inexcusable. He nearly got Sam killed in Chicago, and could have cost us a game. Frankly, this is one of my issues with Zimmer. He was so bent on not having Case lead that offense, he was willing to take a major risk with Sam's health and the team's standing to prove his point.

I'm willing to bet that Zimmerman made the call to take Teddy off the PUP list to try to save his career with the team. Sugarman took Zim aside and told him you can dress Teddy, but you really shouldn't play him, and he did it anyway after what he thought he saw in practice. Afterwards, I bet Sugarman laid it out for him under no uncertain terms that he could have really messed that up in a huge way.
This is complete conjecture on your part. You've created your own narrative here. 

This isn't the first time I've seen you call him 'Zimmerman'. What's up? 
It was late. Zimmerman always seems to roll off the fingers. Too many years of that other great Viking on the brain. Sorry. As for conjecture; of course it is, but give me a better explanation of how Teddy gets inserted in a game and mysteriously gets put on inactive shortly thereafter, especially in light of this new information that "Zimmer" just dropped.

What wasn't conjecture was how he handled the Sam situation. That half  in Chicago bordered on negligence.
You're making assumptions. The medical staff may have cleared him, in fact I'm sure they did. But maybe there was a small setback, a tweak. We don't know but I can make assumptions along those lines also. 

The guy's name is Mike Zimmer....not even Mike 'Zimmer'. When I see someone put Zimmerman on it, which probably was the name originally at some point in his family's history (which you know, German-Jewish), and then keeps referencing it in a smartass way, it smacks a little anti-semetic. Want to give you the benefit of the doubt....but you aren't making it easy.
Holy Shit man. Now who's making assumptions, and full of conjecture? You just hit the grand slam. That's got to be the biggest reach for bullshit I've read on this board. and there have been some doozies over the years.  your dog picture kinda looks like a Pomeranian. German origin if I'm not mistaken, big personality, big allegiance among their owners. hmmm... Yeah, I guess it would stand to reason that you must be a Nazi. Dumbass...
Yep, for sure I could be reaching admittedly. Like I said, wanting to give you the benefit of the doubt. I stopped short of outright accusing. Still a bit odd to me, nonetheless. But I'll let it go. 

And yep, the pic is a Pomeranian. Its what is called a 'Throwback' Pom.....much bigger than a traditional and closer to the breed's origins of the Spitz. 
Gee thanks for letting it go, as if you're doing me a favor.  

You seem to think that the insinuation is appropriately benign. Anyone who so easily goes the anti-semitic route without knowing my background, or showing the ability to even spell anti-semitic correctly, is desperately pathetic in reasonable conversation. Have fun with your dog.  
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#36
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@mgobluevikes said:
@StickyBun said:
@mgobluevikes said:
@StickyBun said:
@mgobluevikes said:
Well, if he put Teddy out there when not physically ready, that would be 2 times in one season, and even if it was done out of love for the guy, it's inexcusable. He nearly got Sam killed in Chicago, and could have cost us a game. Frankly, this is one of my issues with Zimmer. He was so bent on not having Case lead that offense, he was willing to take a major risk with Sam's health and the team's standing to prove his point.

I'm willing to bet that Zimmerman made the call to take Teddy off the PUP list to try to save his career with the team. Sugarman took Zim aside and told him you can dress Teddy, but you really shouldn't play him, and he did it anyway after what he thought he saw in practice. Afterwards, I bet Sugarman laid it out for him under no uncertain terms that he could have really messed that up in a huge way.
This is complete conjecture on your part. You've created your own narrative here. 

This isn't the first time I've seen you call him 'Zimmerman'. What's up? 
It was late. Zimmerman always seems to roll off the fingers. Too many years of that other great Viking on the brain. Sorry. As for conjecture; of course it is, but give me a better explanation of how Teddy gets inserted in a game and mysteriously gets put on inactive shortly thereafter, especially in light of this new information that "Zimmer" just dropped.

What wasn't conjecture was how he handled the Sam situation. That half  in Chicago bordered on negligence.
You're making assumptions. The medical staff may have cleared him, in fact I'm sure they did. But maybe there was a small setback, a tweak. We don't know but I can make assumptions along those lines also. 

The guy's name is Mike Zimmer....not even Mike 'Zimmer'. When I see someone put Zimmerman on it, which probably was the name originally at some point in his family's history (which you know, German-Jewish), and then keeps referencing it in a smartass way, it smacks a little anti-semetic. Want to give you the benefit of the doubt....but you aren't making it easy.
Holy Shit man. Now who's making assumptions, and full of conjecture? You just hit the grand slam. That's got to be the biggest reach for bullshit I've read on this board. and there have been some doozies over the years.  your dog picture kinda looks like a Pomeranian. German origin if I'm not mistaken, big personality, big allegiance among their owners. hmmm... Yeah, I guess it would stand to reason that you must be a Nazi. Dumbass...
knock it off.  I agreed it was a bit of a stretch,  but he was explaining why he was being sensitive to the mis-spelling and not actually labeling you.  

as far as you fictional narrative, its your opinion and entitled to it.

lets keep the name calling out of here though.
Bullshit Jimmy. Nobody tiptoes up to the line of calling me an anti-semite for such a a nonsensical reason which I explained. A bit of a stretch? That was insane. 
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#37
Quote: @mgobluevikes said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@mgobluevikes said:
@StickyBun said:
@mgobluevikes said:
@StickyBun said:
@mgobluevikes said:
Well, if he put Teddy out there when not physically ready, that would be 2 times in one season, and even if it was done out of love for the guy, it's inexcusable. He nearly got Sam killed in Chicago, and could have cost us a game. Frankly, this is one of my issues with Zimmer. He was so bent on not having Case lead that offense, he was willing to take a major risk with Sam's health and the team's standing to prove his point.

I'm willing to bet that Zimmerman made the call to take Teddy off the PUP list to try to save his career with the team. Sugarman took Zim aside and told him you can dress Teddy, but you really shouldn't play him, and he did it anyway after what he thought he saw in practice. Afterwards, I bet Sugarman laid it out for him under no uncertain terms that he could have really messed that up in a huge way.
This is complete conjecture on your part. You've created your own narrative here. 

This isn't the first time I've seen you call him 'Zimmerman'. What's up? 
It was late. Zimmerman always seems to roll off the fingers. Too many years of that other great Viking on the brain. Sorry. As for conjecture; of course it is, but give me a better explanation of how Teddy gets inserted in a game and mysteriously gets put on inactive shortly thereafter, especially in light of this new information that "Zimmer" just dropped.

What wasn't conjecture was how he handled the Sam situation. That half  in Chicago bordered on negligence.
You're making assumptions. The medical staff may have cleared him, in fact I'm sure they did. But maybe there was a small setback, a tweak. We don't know but I can make assumptions along those lines also. 

The guy's name is Mike Zimmer....not even Mike 'Zimmer'. When I see someone put Zimmerman on it, which probably was the name originally at some point in his family's history (which you know, German-Jewish), and then keeps referencing it in a smartass way, it smacks a little anti-semetic. Want to give you the benefit of the doubt....but you aren't making it easy.
Holy Shit man. Now who's making assumptions, and full of conjecture? You just hit the grand slam. That's got to be the biggest reach for bullshit I've read on this board. and there have been some doozies over the years.  your dog picture kinda looks like a Pomeranian. German origin if I'm not mistaken, big personality, big allegiance among their owners. hmmm... Yeah, I guess it would stand to reason that you must be a Nazi. Dumbass...
knock it off.  I agreed it was a bit of a stretch,  but he was explaining why he was being sensitive to the mis-spelling and not actually labeling you.  

as far as you fictional narrative, its your opinion and entitled to it.

lets keep the name calling out of here though.
Bullshit Jimmy. Nobody tiptoes up to the line of calling me an anti-semite for such a a nonsensical reason which I explained. A bit of a stretch? That was insane. 
he explained himself.  its up to you to decide if you believe him or not.  I agreed that it was a leap without more to back it up,  but he didnt actually accuse you of being biased,  he simply said that was how he was reading it.  I am sure you didnt mean it as such but we cannot control how people interpret what we write on here. ( i know this more than anybody as my intent gets misinterpreted as much as anybodies)   
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#38
I was thinking it was a not so subtle smear against folk music & those of Hibbing descent
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#39
Quote: @Maple Surple said:
I was thinking it was a not so subtle smear against folk music & those of Hibbing descent
well if its to subtle the folks Ive met from Hibbing wouldnt get it anyway. :p  j/k,  I dont even know anybody from Hibbing.
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#40
Quote: @mgobluevikes said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@mgobluevikes said:
@StickyBun said:
@mgobluevikes said:
@StickyBun said:
@mgobluevikes said:
Well, if he put Teddy out there when not physically ready, that would be 2 times in one season, and even if it was done out of love for the guy, it's inexcusable. He nearly got Sam killed in Chicago, and could have cost us a game. Frankly, this is one of my issues with Zimmer. He was so bent on not having Case lead that offense, he was willing to take a major risk with Sam's health and the team's standing to prove his point.

I'm willing to bet that Zimmerman made the call to take Teddy off the PUP list to try to save his career with the team. Sugarman took Zim aside and told him you can dress Teddy, but you really shouldn't play him, and he did it anyway after what he thought he saw in practice. Afterwards, I bet Sugarman laid it out for him under no uncertain terms that he could have really messed that up in a huge way.
This is complete conjecture on your part. You've created your own narrative here. 

This isn't the first time I've seen you call him 'Zimmerman'. What's up? 
It was late. Zimmerman always seems to roll off the fingers. Too many years of that other great Viking on the brain. Sorry. As for conjecture; of course it is, but give me a better explanation of how Teddy gets inserted in a game and mysteriously gets put on inactive shortly thereafter, especially in light of this new information that "Zimmer" just dropped.

What wasn't conjecture was how he handled the Sam situation. That half  in Chicago bordered on negligence.
You're making assumptions. The medical staff may have cleared him, in fact I'm sure they did. But maybe there was a small setback, a tweak. We don't know but I can make assumptions along those lines also. 

The guy's name is Mike Zimmer....not even Mike 'Zimmer'. When I see someone put Zimmerman on it, which probably was the name originally at some point in his family's history (which you know, German-Jewish), and then keeps referencing it in a smartass way, it smacks a little anti-semetic. Want to give you the benefit of the doubt....but you aren't making it easy.
Holy Shit man. Now who's making assumptions, and full of conjecture? You just hit the grand slam. That's got to be the biggest reach for bullshit I've read on this board. and there have been some doozies over the years.  your dog picture kinda looks like a Pomeranian. German origin if I'm not mistaken, big personality, big allegiance among their owners. hmmm... Yeah, I guess it would stand to reason that you must be a Nazi. Dumbass...
knock it off.  I agreed it was a bit of a stretch,  but he was explaining why he was being sensitive to the mis-spelling and not actually labeling you.  

as far as you fictional narrative, its your opinion and entitled to it.

lets keep the name calling out of here though.
Bullshit Jimmy. Nobody tiptoes up to the line of calling me an anti-semite for such a a nonsensical reason which I explained. A bit of a stretch? That was insane. 
Fuck you, dude. You're overreacting. I don't give two shits if you like my insinuation or not. Nothing insane about it. I've seen the EXACT same deal with the name before. My wife is Jewish....I knew nothing about it the religion or culture before her. But I know plenty since, as the prejudice is rampant throughout society. I travel for business and have for 25 years and have been exposed to it constantly. Didn't think about it before I really became aware. 

What's insane is your use of the last name Zimmerman. Seen plenty of racists call out Jewish surnames as not real, just like many nationalities did to acclimate to the U.S. when coming to this country for a better life. If you meant nothing by it, fine.....then its all good. But if I'm being honest, I still don't buy it. So fuck you. I don't care if I'm banned, reprimanded or whatever. 
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