The jets can throw out any excuse they want. They could make him a mega star, we offered more money, our organization is jsut as good, etc. The bottom line is they suck and have only one winning season since 2011. They dumped all their big money guys this year with no sign they are replacing them. Ever since hiring Zimmer the Vikings have improved and have shown they are committed to winning. Cousins chose a team that has the number 1 defense in the league, and have improved it. Cousins chose a team that went to the NFC championship game last year, Cousins chose a team with 2 pro bowl receivers a pro bowl TE and a potentially super star running back. Cousins chose a team with one of if not the nicest indoor stadium in the NFL not and outdoor wind tunnel like NY.
Bottom line is the only thing they could offer that the Vikings couldnt was more money and a media that will destroy him after the first incomplete pass he throws.
Typical East Coast attitude: "we're better than everyone else... because we tolerate all points of view and because everything we think or do is absolutely the only right way to think / act."
Quote: @pumpf said:
Typical East Coast attitude: "we're better than everyone else... because we tolerate all points of view and because everything we think or do is absolutely the only right way to think / act."
LOL! Typical Midwest "we're nicer than you are" schpiel.
Having grown up/lived/worked in the NYC area, I can tell you from a first hand perspective that "transplant" New Yorkers are MUCH worse than native NYer's in NYC. And the MAJORITY of those jackasses are from the Midwest and South. Trying too hard to compensate, I guess.
Having lived in the South (North Carolina) for the past 15 years and having raised 2 children here, I can tell you that "southern hospitality" is usually a farce. Very lovey-dovey to your face, but gossiping pricks behnd your back. I much prefer an "East Coast" attitude and know where I stand. My wife is Chinese, but that accounted for only about 50% of the crap myself and my wife and kids experienced.
It's a FACT that NYC is the center of finance, media, art and yes, entertainment in this country. I'm not suggesting that other cities are not "worthy"' in any of these venues, but it is just silly to not acknoledge/comprehend that a metro area that has @ 20 million residents won't be drivers of trends in most arenas.
P.S. You wouldn't last 3 months in NYC, pumpf. Darwin's law. But I'm sure your response will be you wouldn't want to live in NYC. Doesn't change the fact that you COULDN'T survive in NYC.
I think what is driving most of the sour grapes from NYC isn't that Cousins chose Minnesota in particular, it's that he took LESS MONEY. Think about it: how many free agents in their prime, whatever the sport, say "It's not about the money, then immediately turn around and take the biggest offer? Pretty much all of them, and I don't blame them in a profession where careers are barely a decade if you're fortunate.
Now take the Jets (please) Rim shot, thank you I'll be here all offseason :p
They went into FA with the most cap space in the NFL, made the biggest offer, and got turned down. THIS. DOESN'T. HAPPEN. It felt like a slap in the face to the Jets because it WAS. Cousins told the Jets non-verbally as loudly as you can, "You suck!". And even fans who know their team currently stinks don't like it shoved in their faces.
On top of that, by the time the Jets realized Cousins didn't give a crap how much they offered, FAQB options B(radford) and C(ase) were already off the board, leaving Jets fans expecting Cousins and ending up with a resigned McCown and a mystery in Bridgewater. Cue backlash.
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I think what is driving most of the sour grapes from NYC isn't that Cousins chose Minnesota in particular, it's that he took LESS MONEY. Think about it: how many free agents in their prime, whatever the sport, say "It's not about the money, then immediately turn around and take the biggest offer? Pretty much all of them, and I don't blame them in a profession where careers are barely a decade if you're fortunate.
Now take the Jets (please) Rim shot, thank you I'll be here all offseason :p
They went into FA with the most cap space in the NFL, made the biggest offer, and got turned down. THIS. DOESN'T. HAPPEN. It felt like a slap in the face to the Jets because it WAS. Cousins told the Jets non-verbally as loudly as you can, "You suck!". And even fans who know their team currently stinks don't like it shoved in their faces.
On top of that, by the time the Jets realized Cousins didn't give a crap how much they offered, FAQB options B(radford) and C(ase) were already off the board, leaving Jets fans expecting Cousins and ending up with a resigned McCown and a mystery in Bridgewater. Cue backlash.
Cue high-draft choice @ QB is what it means...And just think of all those Viking fans now silent who were chomping at the bit to spew venom at Cousins for taking the $ over a > chance to win a SB ring than the Jets could offer.
Quote: @purplefaithful said:
@ RS Express said:
I think what is driving most of the sour grapes from NYC isn't that Cousins chose Minnesota in particular, it's that he took LESS MONEY. Think about it: how many free agents in their prime, whatever the sport, say "It's not about the money, then immediately turn around and take the biggest offer? Pretty much all of them, and I don't blame them in a profession where careers are barely a decade if you're fortunate.
Now take the Jets (please) Rim shot, thank you I'll be here all offseason :p
They went into FA with the most cap space in the NFL, made the biggest offer, and got turned down. THIS. DOESN'T. HAPPEN. It felt like a slap in the face to the Jets because it WAS. Cousins told the Jets non-verbally as loudly as you can, "You suck!". And even fans who know their team currently stinks don't like it shoved in their faces.
On top of that, by the time the Jets realized Cousins didn't give a crap how much they offered, FAQB options B(radford) and C(ase) were already off the board, leaving Jets fans expecting Cousins and ending up with a resigned McCown and a mystery in Bridgewater. Cue backlash.
just think of all those Viking fans now silent who were chomping at the bit to spew venom at Cousins for taking the $ over a > chance to win a SB ring than the Jets could offer.
? They must be at a different board.
Quote: @Poiple said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ RS Express said:
I think what is driving most of the sour grapes from NYC isn't that Cousins chose Minnesota in particular, it's that he took LESS MONEY. Think about it: how many free agents in their prime, whatever the sport, say "It's not about the money, then immediately turn around and take the biggest offer? Pretty much all of them, and I don't blame them in a profession where careers are barely a decade if you're fortunate.
Now take the Jets (please) Rim shot, thank you I'll be here all offseason :p
They went into FA with the most cap space in the NFL, made the biggest offer, and got turned down. THIS. DOESN'T. HAPPEN. It felt like a slap in the face to the Jets because it WAS. Cousins told the Jets non-verbally as loudly as you can, "You suck!". And even fans who know their team currently stinks don't like it shoved in their faces.
On top of that, by the time the Jets realized Cousins didn't give a crap how much they offered, FAQB options B(radford) and C(ase) were already off the board, leaving Jets fans expecting Cousins and ending up with a resigned McCown and a mystery in Bridgewater. Cue backlash.
just think of all those Viking fans now silent who were chomping at the bit to spew venom at Cousins for taking the $ over a > chance to win a SB ring than the Jets could offer.
? They must be at a different board.
yeah, i didnt get that comment either. there were some that guessed he would likely end up chasing the cash, but i dont think anybody was really hard on it. more were concerned about the amount he would sign for vs the potential future cap implications it might create, or at least the potential difficulties it would create at addressing other needs through FA.
Quote: @njvike said:
@ pumpf said:
Typical East Coast attitude: "we're better than everyone else... because we tolerate all points of view and because everything we think or do is absolutely the only right way to think / act."
LOL! Typical Midwest "we're nicer than you are" schpiel.
Having grown up/lived/worked in the NYC area, I can tell you from a first hand perspective that "transplant" New Yorkers are MUCH worse than native NYer's in NYC. And the MAJORITY of those jackasses are from the Midwest and South. Trying too hard to compensate, I guess.
Having lived in the South (North Carolina) for the past 15 years and having raised 2 children here, I can tell you that "southern hospitality" is usually a farce. Very lovey-dovey to your face, but gossiping pricks behnd your back. I much prefer an "East Coast" attitude and know where I stand. My wife is Chinese, but that accounted for only about 50% of the crap myself and my wife and kids experienced.
It's a FACT that NYC is the center of finance, media, art and yes, entertainment in this country. I'm not suggesting that other cities are not "worthy"' in any of these venues, but it is just silly to not acknoledge/comprehend that a metro area that has @ 20 million residents won't be drivers of trends in most arenas.
P.S. You wouldn't last 3 months in NYC, pumpf. Darwin's law. But I'm sure your response will be you wouldn't want to live in NYC. Doesn't change the fact that you COULDN'T survive in NYC.
Hey, look who showed up everybody! Gee, so great to hear from you again! The Vikings didn't lose any games recently, so it's strange to see you posting... but what a thrill it is to read your comments!
I lived in Baltimore for 4 years. I realize that that's not quite NYC, but it is a large, eastern seaboard city. Curious: what makes you think that I couldn't "survive" there?
By the way: did you ever think that the reason people weren't "nice" to you (behind your back) is that you're not the kind of person that people genuinely like? I don't know you personally, but I haven't found much to like about you on this message board. And since you seem to indicate that you're "real"... maybe people just don't like you? Just throwing that out there as an alternative explanation for the lack of "southern hospitality" that you've experienced.
Quote: @njvike said:
@ pumpf said:
Typical East Coast attitude: "we're better than everyone else... because we tolerate all points of view and because everything we think or do is absolutely the only right way to think / act."
LOL! Typical Midwest "we're nicer than you are" schpiel.
Having grown up/lived/worked in the NYC area, I can tell you from a first hand perspective that "transplant" New Yorkers are MUCH worse than native NYer's in NYC. And the MAJORITY of those jackasses are from the Midwest and South. Trying too hard to compensate, I guess.
Having lived in the South (North Carolina) for the past 15 years and having raised 2 children here, I can tell you that "southern hospitality" is usually a farce. Very lovey-dovey to your face, but gossiping pricks behnd your back. I much prefer an "East Coast" attitude and know where I stand. My wife is Chinese, but that accounted for only about 50% of the crap myself and my wife and kids experienced.
It's a FACT that NYC is the center of finance, media, art and yes, entertainment in this country. I'm not suggesting that other cities are not "worthy"' in any of these venues, but it is just silly to not acknoledge/comprehend that a metro area that has @ 20 million residents won't be drivers of trends in most arenas.
P.S. You wouldn't last 3 months in NYC, pumpf. Darwin's law. But I'm sure your response will be you wouldn't want to live in NYC. Doesn't change the fact that you COULDN'T survive in NYC.
Because every yard eventually has a steaming pile left in it...he returns. Pointlessly combative yet self-righteous, he can drop a conversation's overall IQ by 20 points.
1. Where Cousins comes from originally (Michigan) in this fine US of A really has nothing to do with why he chose the Vikings over the Jets, so attributing his signing with the Vikings to "he's a Midwestern boy" really isn't the truth.
2. The Jets having the most money didn't sway Cousins to go there, not because NYC and Jersey suck (and I don't think they do, btw) but because the Jets aren't ready for prime time. Their team is still a work in progress and will be that way more than likely for the foreseeable future.
3. Kirk Cousins came to Minnesota because of the Minnesota Vikings team, the coaches, the front office, and the facility....but, he also came because of the money. We paid him a fully guaranteed contract, a historical contract, the FIRST fully guaranteed contract in the NFL. Now, the Jets offered the same dealio with even more money, but please see #1.
4. Don't think that Captain Kirk wouldn't have went to the Broncos had they been able to pony up the kind of cash the Vikings did. If the shoe was on the other foot, and it was Denver who offered him a 3 year 84 million deal and the Vikings offered less, he'd be a Bronco.
So, IMO Cousins wanted a great chance to win BUT he also wanted the $$$$. He said so himself in interviews. He wanted both. He got both.
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