OT: Darkest Hour

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Masterful Oldman performance of the British Bulldog...

Wow, the decisions Churchill had to make, the appeasement malaise of Chamberlain/Lord Halifax, the early isolationism from the US as Hitler overran Europe...

Darkest hours indeed.

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if you found this movie interesting, watch the mini series Winds of War on utube.

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We watched the movie last evening.  Amazing how FDR left Britain to rot, at the time.

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I read 'The Last Lion: Winston Spencer Churchill' about 2 years ago and it was fascinating. Britain was incredibly brave and steadfast in their opposition of Hitler and the U.S. really just left them hanging until Japan brought us into the war. Churchill is an amazing individual. 

p.s. I love Gary Oldman, straight up.

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@StickyBun said:
I read 'The Last Lion: Winston Spencer Churchill' about 2 years ago and it was fascinating. Britain was incredibly brave and steadfast in their opposition of Hitler and the U.S. really just left them hanging until Japan brought us into the war. Churchill is an amazing individual. 

p.s. I love Gary Oldman, straight up.

Gotta tell you...I've taught history for 30 years.

William Manchester is just brilliant. All his works are fantastic.
I use his narrative of American History "The Glory and the Dream" basically as my textbook.

Goodbye Darkness fantastic retrospective of the pacific theater WWII,

And his Kennedy book Death of a President is a MUST read for anyone interested in the Kennedy assassination.  Portrait of a President, One Brief shining moment...and his book American Caesar on MacArthur. All fantastic.

My all-time favorite historian. RIP

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@Montana Tom said:
We watched the movie last evening.  Amazing how FDR left Britain to rot, at the time.

I don't know FDR's own personal feelings about what to do for Great Britain before 12/7/41 or not.

I do know that Isolationalist policies and sentiment were quite strong in the US following WW1. Even if Franklin wanted to, I think politically his hands were tied till all hell broke lose in 41. 

It was "Europe's Business" not for us to get involved. You probably know all that already MT, so I'm not getting professorial here.

My how history would have been different if the Brits couldn't have held out to the degree they did. Hitler not fighting a 2 front war might have meant the demise of the Soviets as well. 

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Thought the thread was about all our QBs signing elsewhere.....

Na, the movie was fantastic. 

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Haven't seen the Darkest Hour yet, but I can't wait. For WWII buffs like me, if you haven't seen it before, I encourage you to watch this little presentation. Check out the American death toll in WWII, compared to the British and German deaths. Then get ready to pick your jaw up off the floor when you see the Russian deaths. It is almost unfathomable. 

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The Russian’s really took it hard.  Just a Brutal war for them.  

Read BLIND MAN’S BLUFF.  An unauthorized story of submarine special missions post WW2.
You didnt hear it from me.

I enjoyed Silent Victory. A day by day accounting of all submarine movements in the Pacific in WW2.

Clear the Decks by Dick Okane is also a favorite.

READ BLIND MAN’s BLUFF.

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Generations of Russian men and their family lines were wiped out. Its surreal the amount of dead for them in WWII.