Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ purplefaithful said:
I can't get on RS or the front office badly for the Bradford move...Extraordinary circumstances calling for extraordinary response to save a season.
We've seen Sam's elite arm, best on team right now. Nobody knew at the time (I dont believe) he has a degenerative condition that may or may not limit him in the next 2-4 years.
Boone was a swing and miss for sure, dont get me going on AP lol!
I don't think he meant that as a Rick slam. All it takes is one look around the NFL to know that, at any given time, there are a handful of bad contracts on every team. It's just part of the game.
And there's a difference between a bad contract and a bad decision. Jared Allen was grossly overpaid his last season here, but the Vikings followed through on their commitment to him. That sort of player treatment gets around the NFL. Who knows, might even have some influence on Cousins right now. So bad contract, good decision IMO. Bradford was a good decision, too. I thought Boone was overrated before he even got here. I get the Datone Jones thing. He was a beast at UCLA as a 4-3 end. He was an ill-fit in the Packers' 34. So bringing him on to see if a new scheme might work is understandable.
No, I definitely meant it as a criticism of Spielman. No question.
The idiot decided that Shaun Hill should be the #2 QB.
When Teddy went down he decided Hill was not good enough to start and then got bent over by Roseman.
You think if Keenum was the backup he would have still made the trade?
Maybe at that point he would have. Sheesh.
When Tom Brady blew out his knee in 2008 the Patriots rolled with Matt Cassel.
They did not panic and trade away future valuable picks (Derek Barnett or Jonathan Allen would look good in purple right about now) to save a season.
They rolled with what they planned for.
It was a terrible trade and the results bear that out.
They did not save the season and they did not get the return on investment for an oft injured QB who was now leaving his second team who did not want him.
You sure do toss around the word idiot a lot.
Wow, I guess I overestimated you. Honestly, I don't think you could be more wrong about any of these. But whatever...
Just a comment on Jared Allen...
The guys play exceeded expectations from the money he was receiving for at LEAST three years...
He never postured, or yelped for more money, even after nearly breaking the sack record.
He never held out for more money or a new contract...He just played the game he loved.
In the last couple years as his production waned, theVikings stayed committed to him and his contracted salary. I applaud the Vikings for staying with him and honoring his contract, and I applaud JA, for not posturing for more money after his "nearly" record breaking season.
Quote: @FSUVike said:
You sure do toss around the word idiot a lot.
Well, I am one (at least my wife tells me often) so I might recognize one when I see one.
I just think it was poor planning and a bad trade.
Save the season? Pfft.
After everything that happened he would have been given a mulligan (as he should) for 2016.
But he had to go and throw away draft picks.
I did not like, still don't, and never will.
Quote: @Vanguard83 said:
Just a comment on Jared Allen...
The guys play exceeded expectations from the money he was receiving for at LEAST three years...
He never postured, or yelped for more money, even after nearly breaking the sack record.
He never held out for more money or a new contract...He just played the game he loved.
In the last couple years as his production waned, theVikings stayed committed to him and his contracted salary. I applaud the Vikings for staying with him and honoring his contract, and I applaud JA, for not posturing for more money after his "nearly" record breaking season.
This is great but it really means nothing. The Vikings were rebuilding and Allen would have freed up gobs of cap space and likely gotten a 4th at the very least.
The Vikings did not honor the contract of Hutchinson or Winfield.
So they do not always honor contracts of really good guys and players.
I just like it when a franchise does right by players that spill blood for 'em., wish we did it more often.
say opposed to players like AD that get paid more after beating their kid and whining for more money
Cousins is the only long-term solution that the Vikings would have at QB. It makes sense to go all out, none of the existing 3 QBs are anything more than stop-gap players.
Interesting stuff.
http://www.1500espn.com/vikings-2/2018/0...d-cousins/
As we approach a resolution to the Minnesota Vikings’ quarterback conundrum, we may have a sense for the team’s order of operations if they do not land top free agent Kirk Cousins. Boston Globe NFL reporter Ben Volin reports that’s Teddy Bridgewater is the fallback plan.
Volin wrote:
“The Vikings told Teddy Bridgewater at the Combine last weekend that they intend to pursue Cousins, per a league source, but that Bridgewater remains a viable backup plan.”
At the Combine, head coach Mike Zimmer said that he hopes Bridgewater returns to being a starting quarterback after his nearly two-year recovery from a catastrophic knee injury.
Volin added another wrinkle to the Vikings paying out big dollars to Cousins:
“And the Vikings have a couple of issues in going after Cousins. One is that the Vikings want to do new contracts for Stefon Diggs, Anthony Barr, and Danielle Hunter, and giving a mega-deal to Cousins could complicate that. The NFL’s funding requirement could also be an issue — teams are required to put all guaranteed money into escrow, and Vikings ownership isn’t wealthy enough to simply cut a $90 million check and be done with it.”
While there have been reports that the Vikings are the runaway favorite for Cousins, they may not be the favorite to give him the highest offer.
Volin wrote:
“Cousins has narrowed his market to four teams — the Vikings, Broncos, Jets, and Cardinals. The Jets can offer him the most money. The Vikings and Broncos offer him the best chance to win now. The Cardinals are a bit of a wild card — they appear to be in rebuilding mode and don’t have a ton of cap space ($20.6 million or so), but it could be mighty tempting to throw passes to Larry Fitzgerald and hand off to David Johnson.”
Beyond Bridgewater, other possible Vikings backup plans could include trying to re-sign Sam Bradford or Case Keenum. They have also been connected to AJ McCarron and could even consider drafting a QB. The Vikings reportedly met with Baker Mayfield at the Combine.
I have a hard time believing any of this is more than just a blatant attempt at pushing the market price.
I guess we'll find out tomorrow.
I really don't see the Vikings going outside the organization for an offensive leader after a 13-3 season.
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