Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun said:
I'm all in on whatever, I've said this from Day One, but if Zimmer isn't interested in trying to get a top QB because he's concerned about 'defensive talent' and how a QB would impact that salary cap-wise, the team will only ever be so good. It will be limited. Bridesmaids forever.
Its a freakin' QBs league in the NFL. He can quote all the stats he wants, but the only stat that counts is a complete ass kicking in a NFC Championship game and a 1-2 record in the playoffs. Let's not be the Kansas City Chiefs.
I forget... did the team with the best QB win the Lombardi this year? Or was it the better defense?
I think the best team won. Not much defense to be had in that Super Bowl though.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun said:
I'm all in on whatever, I've said this from Day One, but if Zimmer isn't interested in trying to get a top QB because he's concerned about 'defensive talent' and how a QB would impact that salary cap-wise, the team will only ever be so good. It will be limited. Bridesmaids forever.
Its a freakin' QBs league in the NFL. He can quote all the stats he wants, but the only stat that counts is a complete ass kicking in a NFC Championship game and a 1-2 record in the playoffs. Let's not be the Kansas City Chiefs.
I forget... did the team with the best QB win the Lombardi this year? Or was it the better defense?
41 to 33 and over 1100 yards of offense.
Not sure we saw that much defense this past SB...But yah, the team that scored the most won. :p
Ultimately it wasn't the better QB, it was the team with the better D that best the best QB in the league. Its going to take a great D to beat teams with great QBs.
Pats fans will take 5/1 in SB's...Or maybe it's 5/2 cause Eli beat em too. Gotta have both - especially QB in this league these days.
Not sure if we got that QB on the roster now or not anymore. So many question marks on all of em.
We all know what they say when you have more than one qb on the roster...My question always has been "who's they?"
Quote: @StickyBun said:
I'm all in on whatever, I've said this from Day One, but if Zimmer isn't interested in trying to get a top QB because he's concerned about 'defensive talent' and how a QB would impact that salary cap-wise, the team will only ever be so good. It will be limited. Bridesmaids forever.
Its a freakin' QBs league in the NFL. He can quote all the stats he wants, but the only stat that counts is a complete ass kicking in a NFC Championship game and a 1-2 record in the playoffs. Let's not be the Kansas City Chiefs.
But what if he doesn't think Cousins is a "top" QB?
Quote: @"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ StickyBun said:
I'm all in on whatever, I've said this from Day One, but if Zimmer isn't interested in trying to get a top QB because he's concerned about 'defensive talent' and how a QB would impact that salary cap-wise, the team will only ever be so good. It will be limited. Bridesmaids forever.
Its a freakin' QBs league in the NFL. He can quote all the stats he wants, but the only stat that counts is a complete ass kicking in a NFC Championship game and a 1-2 record in the playoffs. Let's not be the Kansas City Chiefs.
But what if he doesn't think Cousins is a "top" QB?
Since they had to wait to get JDF on board before talking about QB's and the fact that Norv was the one who really wanted Teddy (or at least he worked him out at his pro day), I would say Zimmer should stick to his defense.
He really needs to learn from the Eagles and rotate his defensive linemen more during the season so that they will not be worn out at the end.
Why Shamar and Jaleel did not play more is a mystery to me.
His part of the team really let them down vs the Eagles.
Now, Case gave away 7 and he fumbled in the red zone which would have changed the complexion some but the defense was getting worked for the most part.
He needs to do a better job explaining how he was thoroughly out coached in that game.
Quote: @greediron said:
Let's make sure we keep understanding the team is why we have done good things.
Yeah, makes me think they aren't going to overspend for a QB.
If hes going to get out-coached in big games like he did inhe NFC championship, I’m not sure we should continue to spend on his favorite side of the ball. He may never have no better chance than he had this year with everyone intact, and got drubbed.
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun said:
I'm all in on whatever, I've said this from Day One, but if Zimmer isn't interested in trying to get a top QB because he's concerned about 'defensive talent' and how a QB would impact that salary cap-wise, the team will only ever be so good. It will be limited. Bridesmaids forever.
Its a freakin' QBs league in the NFL. He can quote all the stats he wants, but the only stat that counts is a complete ass kicking in a NFC Championship game and a 1-2 record in the playoffs. Let's not be the Kansas City Chiefs.
I forget... did the team with the best QB win the Lombardi this year? Or was it the better defense?
41 to 33 and over 1100 yards of offense.
Not sure we saw that much defense this past SB...But yah, the team that scored the most won. :p
Ultimately it wasn't the better QB, it was the team with the better D that best the best QB in the league. Its going to take a great D to beat teams with great QBs.
The better QB wins 8 out of 10 times. If you want the anomaly, good for you. I want the Super Bowl. Zimmer is talking like a second place coach who can't grasp that an offense is the difference in the NFCC games.
Not to mention they got there, in large part, because they had an MVP front runner at QB for 80% of the season. Zimmer is like the anti-Denny Green and now they both have similar lop-sided losses in NFC championship games.
Quote: @"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ StickyBun said:
I'm all in on whatever, I've said this from Day One, but if Zimmer isn't interested in trying to get a top QB because he's concerned about 'defensive talent' and how a QB would impact that salary cap-wise, the team will only ever be so good. It will be limited. Bridesmaids forever.
Its a freakin' QBs league in the NFL. He can quote all the stats he wants, but the only stat that counts is a complete ass kicking in a NFC Championship game and a 1-2 record in the playoffs. Let's not be the Kansas City Chiefs.
But what if he doesn't think Cousins is a "top" QB?
I openly question Zimmer’s judgement when it comes to anything offense.
Quote: @StickyBun said:
I'm all in on whatever, I've said this from Day One, but if Zimmer isn't interested in trying to get a top QB because he's concerned about 'defensive talent' and how a QB would impact that salary cap-wise, the team will only ever be so good. It will be limited. Bridesmaids forever.
Its a freakin' QBs league in the NFL. He can quote all the stats he wants, but the only stat that counts is a complete ass kicking in a NFC Championship game and a 1-2 record in the playoffs. Let's not be the Kansas City Chiefs.
Yep, the "I love my defense approach" is dangerous, and if Zimmer really believes it, he will just be a mirror image of Denny Green: one side of the ball fantastic, but ultimately held back because the other side is not up to NFL standards.
Denny had a great offense in 1999, and needed to infuse talent into his defense. He could have done so when the Brad Johnson trade provided the #11 pick, had he used it to add Jevon Kearse. Instead he picked Daunte Culpepper, who was only a future talent for the OFFENSE.
Zimmer's team now has the money to improve his offense, but if he's truly arguing to save that cap space to keep his defense together in the future...we will contend for the division for a number of years but never take the next step.
Quote: @"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ StickyBun said:
I'm all in on whatever, I've said this from Day One, but if Zimmer isn't interested in trying to get a top QB because he's concerned about 'defensive talent' and how a QB would impact that salary cap-wise, the team will only ever be so good. It will be limited. Bridesmaids forever.
Its a freakin' QBs league in the NFL. He can quote all the stats he wants, but the only stat that counts is a complete ass kicking in a NFC Championship game and a 1-2 record in the playoffs. Let's not be the Kansas City Chiefs.
But what if he doesn't think Cousins is a "top" QB?
Honestly Geoff, I guess I'll get behind it and hope for the best, what choice do I have? But how can I trust that Zimmer wants the 'top' QB when he's already said he just wants a QB that won't mess with his defensive talent? He wants a game manager, somebody that doesn't create a lot of turnovers. That gets you decent regular seasons but disappointing post seasons. I want a killer mentality. Zimmer talks and thinks like a glorified defensive coordinator, not a HC.
Welcome to Minneapolis, the Kansas City of the North.
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ StickyBun said:
I'm all in on whatever, I've said this from Day One, but if Zimmer isn't interested in trying to get a top QB because he's concerned about 'defensive talent' and how a QB would impact that salary cap-wise, the team will only ever be so good. It will be limited. Bridesmaids forever.
Its a freakin' QBs league in the NFL. He can quote all the stats he wants, but the only stat that counts is a complete ass kicking in a NFC Championship game and a 1-2 record in the playoffs. Let's not be the Kansas City Chiefs.
But what if he doesn't think Cousins is a "top" QB?
Honestly Geoff, I guess I'll get behind it and hope for the best, what choice do I have? But how can I trust that Zimmer wants the 'top' QB when he's already said he just wants a QB that won't mess with his defensive talent? He wants a game manager, somebody that doesn't create a lot of turnovers. That gets you decent regular seasons but disappointing post seasons. I want a killer mentality. Zimmer talks and thinks like a glorified defensive coordinator, not a HC.
Welcome to Minneapolis, the Kansas City of the North.
I think part of his trouble is he dependence on listening to Parcells. The game has changed a great deal since Parcells coached.
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