Panthers Not Expect To Tag Norwell

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@Canthony said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:
Why is this a surprise? There was no way the Panthers were going to tag Norwell and pay their guards a combined $21M. I wouldn't expect the Vikings to have major interest. 

How come?

They won't pay a guard without tackle versatility $10M+. Guards aren't the type of players you get into bidding wars for.

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@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@Canthony said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:
Why is this a surprise? There was no way the Panthers were going to tag Norwell and pay their guards a combined $21M. I wouldn't expect the Vikings to have major interest. 

How come?

They won't pay a guard without tackle versatility $10M+. Guards aren't the type of players you get into bidding wars for.

What about Steve Hutchinson? That worked out pretty well for us. 

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@TBro said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@Canthony said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:
Why is this a surprise? There was no way the Panthers were going to tag Norwell and pay their guards a combined $21M. I wouldn't expect the Vikings to have major interest. 

How come?

They won't pay a guard without tackle versatility $10M+. Guards aren't the type of players you get into bidding wars for.

What about Steve Hutchinson? That worked out pretty well for us. 

Not going to disagree with that since its arguably one of the best signings the Vikings have ever made. I wouldn't put Norwell quite on that level. 

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@"Geoff Nichols" said:
Why is this a surprise? There was no way the Panthers were going to tag Norwell and pay their guards a combined $21M. I wouldn't expect the Vikings to have major interest. 

That is craziness.  Ryan Kalil is in the last year of his deal and has a 9.6 mil cap hit.  He has missed 18 games the last two years and said he would retire after 2018.  If they cut him they save 6.875 mil.

Matt Kalil can be cut after 2018 and they save 5.7 mil in cap space but take a 7.2 mil dead money cap hit.

Who thinks Matt Kalil will be worth 10.5 mil in cash and a 12.9 mil cap hit in 2019?

They likely will move on from him too.

But maybe they don't care and that is why they drafted Taylor Moton?

It would be nice to see the Vikings go for Norwell but I disagree with the thought of paying a top guard rather than a top QB.

They can get another guard in the draft or a cheaper free agent like Justin Pugh or Jack Mewhort which both come with injury histories.

Who knows?  Maybe they try to re-sign Brandon Fusco who bounced back last year?

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They only have about 20 mil/yr tied up in their OT's and have outs with both after next year.  If they could give Norwell a deal less than Reiff but more than Remmers I could see some sense and have it not really be out of line, nobody else on the OL is making much yet.  If they want to sign Sam/Teddy/Kirk you are going to need very good pass pro on the inside.  Of course Kirk makes the investment less viable.

Put the best OL in front of the QB you can and the success of whichever one you have will be far more likely.  It sure would free up draft capital for a potentialdefensive play maker.

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@MarkSP18 said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:
Why is this a surprise? There was no way the Panthers were going to tag Norwell and pay their guards a combined $21M. I wouldn't expect the Vikings to have major interest. 

That is craziness.  Ryan Kalil is in the last year of his deal and has a 9.6 mil cap hit.  He has missed 18 games the last two years and said he would retire after 2018.  If they cut him they save 6.875 mil.

Matt Kalil can be cut after 2018 and they save 5.7 mil in cap space but take a 7.2 mil dead money cap hit.

Who thinks Matt Kalil will be worth 10.5 mil in cash and a 12.9 mil cap hit in 2019?

They likely will move on from him too.

But maybe they don't care and that is why they drafted Taylor Moton?

It would be nice to see the Vikings go for Norwell but I disagree with the thought of paying a top guard rather than a top QB.

They can get another guard in the draft or a cheaper free agent like Justin Pugh or Jack Mewhort which both come with injury histories.

Who knows?  Maybe they try to re-sign Brandon Fusco who bounced back last year?

Not tagging Norwell doesn't mean the sides still can't come to a long-term agreement. This is only suggesting the Panthers are not going to pay him $14M on a 1 year deal. 

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My surprise is that they didn't work something out before hand, especially since Ryan Kalil is talking about hanging it up...

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@dadevike said:
Norwell is at the top of my list of FAs for the Vikes.  

if you read other fan boards hes the #1 target on everyones list. 31 teams fans are going to be disapointed

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@AGRforever said:

@dadevike said:
Norwell is at the top of my list of FAs for the Vikes.  

if you read other fan boards hes the #1 target on everyones list. 31 teams fans are going to be disapointed

It is funny no?  Every top free agent is wanted by every team.  LMAO!

Fans have to dream! 

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Again, does he even fit the scheme? If he's not coming from a zbs he's not going to seamlessly fit in as many are assuming any more than a CB who is coming from a Cover 2 system.