ROTO Mock

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http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cfb/77...draft-no-2

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I don't see the Giants passing on Barkley to take Rosen when Eli still has life left in him. If they would focus
on fixing their line, a dual threat weapon like Barkley and a healthy Beckham would be a nice duo.

I haven't seen too many mocks were Hernandez falls that far. I know Guru has some reservations about him but I think that is more about correcting some flaws in his technique with better coaching. I would be very excited if we
could grab him at 30 without having to give up picks to move up. He showed the kind of dominance he is capable of at the Senior Bowl.   

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@TBro said:
I don't see the Giants passing on Barkley to take Rosen when Eli still has life left in him. If they would focus
on fixing their line, a dual threat weapon like Barkley and a healthy Beckham would be a nice duo.

I haven't seen too many mocks were Hernandez falls that far. I know Guru has some reservations about him but I think that is more about correcting some flaws in his technique with better coaching. I would be very excited if we
could grab him at 30 without having to give up picks to move up. He showed the kind of dominance he is capable of at the Senior Bowl.   

If you even remotely like one of the QB's you need to take them if you're the Giants. Otherwise you need to trade out of the pick with a QB needy team. The Giants who have some talent need to leverage the value of the pick. Until Manning retires or moves on (maybe in a year?) you're not going to be picking in the top 5. Just prevent getting put into QB purgatory. Look at AZ now with the 15th pick and no QB. They'll either need to get lucky someone drops, find a diamond in the middle of the draft, or overpay to move up the board. Nothing against Barkley, but I think the Giants would benefit more from leveraging the pick and then taking Jones/Guice at the top of the 2nd. They could even move up slightly into the back end of the first if they really liked a guy. 

My issues with Hernandez has noting to do with his technique or ability. He just isn't as good of a fit in a stretch zone blocking scheme than he would be in man to man. He is a massive mauler and can move people at the point, but he doesn't have top-end speed to win angle at the 2nd level consistently. Think about the impact the Vikings had inserting Easton in at LG in the place of Boone. In a vacuum Boone probably is a bit better than Easton at the beginning of the year. But Boone has the same issue getting and sealing at the 2nd level. Easton is much quicker and can get ahead of the play.  

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@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@TBro said:
I don't see the Giants passing on Barkley to take Rosen when Eli still has life left in him. If they would focus
on fixing their line, a dual threat weapon like Barkley and a healthy Beckham would be a nice duo.

I haven't seen too many mocks were Hernandez falls that far. I know Guru has some reservations about him but I think that is more about correcting some flaws in his technique with better coaching. I would be very excited if we
could grab him at 30 without having to give up picks to move up. He showed the kind of dominance he is capable of at the Senior Bowl.   

If you even remotely like one of the QB's you need to take them if you're the Giants. Otherwise you need to trade out of the pick with a QB needy team. The Giants who have some talent need to leverage the value of the pick. Until Manning retires or moves on (maybe in a year?) you're not going to be picking in the top 5. Just prevent getting put into QB purgatory. Look at AZ now with the 15th pick and no QB. They'll either need to get lucky someone drops, find a diamond in the middle of the draft, or overpay to move up the board. Nothing against Barkley, but I think the Giants would benefit more from leveraging the pick and then taking Jones/Guice at the top of the 2nd. They could even move up slightly into the back end of the first if they really liked a guy. 

My issues with Hernandez has noting to do with his technique or ability. He just isn't as good of a fit in a stretch zone blocking scheme than he would be in man to man. He is a massive mauler and can move people at the point, but he doesn't have top-end speed to win angle at the 2nd level consistently. Think about the impact the Vikings had inserting Easton in at LG in the place of Boone. In a vacuum Boone probably is a bit better than Easton at the beginning of the year. But Boone has the same issue getting and sealing at the 2nd level. Easton is much quicker and can get ahead of the play.  

I think Eli has at least 2-3 more seasons left and I think Shurmur believes he has 2-3 seasons left and one of the main reasons he took the job based on his comments to the media. I think it's more realistic for them to trade down a few spots if they can get Barkley or Quenton Nelson than taking Rosen at #2. McAdoo got 2 seasons before he screwed the pooch with how he handled Eli and was shown the door with Reese. I think the Giants have some urgency and maybe a little desperation to try and win now with the few years Eli has left and kick the QB can down the road. 

You're right about the Cardinals being a mess, but they put themselves in that position by neglecting the QB position hoping Carson Palmer would find the Fountain of Youth. They haven't drafted a QB since 2014. 

As far as Hernandez, I've seen the same scheme fit concerns but when I watch some of his tape, his mobility for his size is pretty amazing. The Oklahoma game really stood out on his ability to help the Left Tackle double team the DE and then head up field to crush the LB at the second level. Plus, since most people believe he is better suited to play RG in the NFL, he would be replacing Berger who wasn't very mobile. Do we even know what kind of blocking scheme Defilippo wants to run yet?