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Interior Lineman Draft Prospects at 30
#1
In my opinion, we need two day 1 starters at OG and DT out of this draft unless we find those replacements in FA. I know there are always surprises every year, but who do you think will be some of the realistic Interior Lineman options available for Rick to select at 30 that you really like? I don't see guys like Da'Ron Payne, Taven Bryan, Quenton Nelson, Maurice Hurst(Too small to play interior in my opinion) available that late in the 1st. 

Here are a few I like that I hope will still be there. No particular order. I'm looking at all of these as Day 1 starters.

Will Hernandez 6'3" 305 lbs OG UTEP  Just an absolute beast. Very nasty player. 

Harrison Phillips 6'3" 303 lbs DT Standford  I hate to use the cliche, but he has a relentless motor. Tenacious defender.

Billy Price 6'4" 315 lbs C/OG Ohio State  Awesome fit next to Elflein and has versatility to play OG or C

Braden Smith 6'5" 303 lbs OG Aurburn  Best Blocker in the SEC this year. Tall but athletic, quick feet, and a powerful lower body. Rick could look at trading down into the second a few spots to gain some picks and still possibly get him. 

Vita Vea 6'5 340 lbs  DT Washington  The Tongan Freak has unbelievable strength and athleticism. Not sure if he could play next to Linval in Zimmer's scheme, but I would love to see what those two could do side by side. Stock seems to be moving up so 30 might be a bit unrealistic for us to grab him. 

Please add some names to the list you like at 30. 







 


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#2
love the idea of adding Price at G. Teammate of Elf, love OL chemistry.   Draft a OT in the 3rd to compete with Hill and Remmers

makes it a battle at RG between Isodora, Easton, Remmers

OL
Reiff-Price-Elfein-Remmers-Rookie with Hill, Isodora, Easton, Collins as versatile backups

That second round pick??? Shipped to
Cincy for Geno Atkins. 3 years left in his prime, a top UT next to a top NT. Healthy Griff and the youthful edge rushers of Hunter, Bower, Weatherly evolving

The trenches just got a hell of a lot better with 3 new additions, strengthening our weakest spots
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#3
I like the idea of trading for Atkins, I just don't know if I'm willing to give up a 2nd for him. I guess it depends if we are all in for next year. 
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#4
Quote: @TBro said:
In my opinion, we need two day 1 starters at OG and DT out of this draft unless we find those replacements in FA. I know there are always surprises every year, but who do you think will be some of the realistic Interior Lineman options available for Rick to select at 30 that you really like? I don't see guys like Da'Ron Payne, Taven Bryan, Quenton Nelson, Maurice Hurst(Too small to play interior in my opinion) available that late in the 1st. 

Here are a few I like that I hope will still be there. No particular order. I'm looking at all of these as Day 1 starters.

Will Hernandez 6'3" 305 lbs OG UTEP  Just an absolute beast. Very nasty player. 

Harrison Phillips 6'3" 303 lbs DT Standford  I hate to use the cliche, but he has a relentless motor. Tenacious defender.

Billy Price 6'4" 315 lbs C/OG Ohio State  Awesome fit next to Elflein and has versatility to play OG or C

Braden Smith 6'5" 303 lbs OG Aurburn  Best Blocker in the SEC this year. Tall but athletic, quick feet, and a powerful lower body. Rick could look at trading down into the second a few spots to gain some picks and still possibly get him. 

Vita Vea 6'5 340 lbs  DT Washington  The Tongan Freak has unbelievable strength and athleticism. Not sure if he could play next to Linval in Zimmer's scheme, but I would love to see what those two could do side by side. Stock seems to be moving up so 30 might be a bit unrealistic for us to grab him. 

Please add some names to the list you like at 30. 







 
I think it is going to be Harrison Phillips, but I do like Vea a lot.  Of course, that kinda brushes aside Jaleel Johnson and I'm not sure Phillips is that much of an improvement over Johnson, but Vea is something the Vikings don't have on the roster right now.  I expect Vea to test out poorly in the VJ, BJ, and 40, so he might be available.  Polynesians can have a very strong upper body, but our legs are relatively short.  Read into that whatever you want.

Billy Price would be a safe pick, not in the first round, but a good guy to have.  Hernandez scares me.  He is dominant at OG, and the Vikings need someone like that, but the guy has trouble cracking a 5.6 in the 40.  Whoa!

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#5
Would love Vea, skeptical he will be there.  Hernandez seems like the pick,  lack of speed, OG in the first and a star off of a 0-13 team all have me wincing.
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Quote: @Ponifan said:
@TBro said:
In my opinion, we need two day 1 starters at OG and DT out of this draft unless we find those replacements in FA. I know there are always surprises every year, but who do you think will be some of the realistic Interior Lineman options available for Rick to select at 30 that you really like? I don't see guys like Da'Ron Payne, Taven Bryan, Quenton Nelson, Maurice Hurst(Too small to play interior in my opinion) available that late in the 1st. 

Here are a few I like that I hope will still be there. No particular order. I'm looking at all of these as Day 1 starters.

Will Hernandez 6'3" 305 lbs OG UTEP  Just an absolute beast. Very nasty player. 

Harrison Phillips 6'3" 303 lbs DT Standford  I hate to use the cliche, but he has a relentless motor. Tenacious defender.

Billy Price 6'4" 315 lbs C/OG Ohio State  Awesome fit next to Elflein and has versatility to play OG or C

Braden Smith 6'5" 303 lbs OG Aurburn  Best Blocker in the SEC this year. Tall but athletic, quick feet, and a powerful lower body. Rick could look at trading down into the second a few spots to gain some picks and still possibly get him. 

Vita Vea 6'5 340 lbs  DT Washington  The Tongan Freak has unbelievable strength and athleticism. Not sure if he could play next to Linval in Zimmer's scheme, but I would love to see what those two could do side by side. Stock seems to be moving up so 30 might be a bit unrealistic for us to grab him. 

Please add some names to the list you like at 30. 







 
I think it is going to be Harrison Phillips, but I do like Vea a lot.  Of course, that kinda brushes aside Jaleel Johnson and I'm not sure Phillips is that much of an improvement over Johnson, but Vea is something the Vikings don't have on the roster right now.  I expect Vea to test out poorly in the VJ, BJ, and 40, so he might be available.  Polynesians can have a very strong upper body, but our legs are relatively short.  Read into that whatever you want.

Billy Price would be a safe pick, not in the first round, but a good guy to have.  Hernandez scares me.  He is dominant at OG, and the Vikings need someone like that, but the guy has trouble cracking a 5.6 in the 40.  Whoa!

Love Harrison Phillips, but if we're serious about taking this ship to the next level, I think we need a veteran at 3T who can play right now and become a bridge to Jaleel Johnson. Not just a veteran, but a real ass-kicker, a player who can take over games and turn Linval, Hunter and Everson into even better players. If there's a glaring weakness on this team, it's at 3T. Geno Atkins could be that player. Sheldon Richardson is a douchebag, but he's one of the few penetrating 3Ts in a free agency class loaded with NTs. 
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#7
Hernandez doesn't fit the Vikings stretch zone scheme. He doesn't have the ability to get out and run in space. Good player though. 

Unfortunately the D-line class doesn't provide many up field pass rushers this year. There is a lot of balance and some good run stoppers. I personally wouldn't trade anything substantial to Cincinnati for Atkins since he is in the last year of his deal. Extending him at age 30 isn't idea considering the money he'd still be able to leverage. Sheldon Richardson would cost roughly the same amount and you wouldn't have to give up a draft pick to grab him. Do I think its likely they give him the money he is looking for? No. But I wouldn't be shocked if they went that direction either.

My guess is that they draft a player, resign one or both of Tom Johnson/Shamar Stephen, then take a flier on a FA like Dominique Easley. Depending how high they take a player in the draft you're left with a stable of Linval Joseph, Tom Johnson, Jaleel Johnson, Shamar Stephen (?), Rookie, Easley. That isn't a bad stable of talent.    
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Quote: @"Geoff Nichols" said:
Hernandez doesn't fit the Vikings stretch zone scheme. He doesn't have the ability to get out and run in space. Good player though. 

Unfortunately the D-line class doesn't provide many up field pass rushers this year. There is a lot of balance and some good run stoppers. I personally wouldn't trade anything substantial to Cincinnati for Atkins since he is in the last year of his deal. Extending him at age 30 isn't idea considering the money he'd still be able to leverage. Sheldon Richardson would cost roughly the same amount and you wouldn't have to give up a draft pick to grab him. Do I think its likely they give him the money he is looking for? No. But I wouldn't be shocked if they went that direction either.

My guess is that they draft a player, resign one or both of Tom Johnson/Shamar Stephen, then take a flier on a FA like Dominique Easley. Depending how high they take a player in the draft you're left with a stable of Linval Joseph, Tom Johnson, Jaleel Johnson, Shamar Stephen (?), Rookie, Easley. That isn't a bad stable of talent.    
Richardson's stats were very average last year in Seattle for a guy that wants to test free agency and is looking for a big pay day. I would avoid him and I wouldn't give up picks for Atkins. I think Easley has some promise. He is still young and has never been a full-time starter. He has the physical tools that Zimmer could mold into a productive 3T. Are you saying that you don't really see any options in the draft to fix our Pass Rush? Everyone knew about Griffins foot injury, but I was surprised at how ineffective our pass rush was at the end of the season. Hunter disappeared, and we were not getting any push up the middle. They all looked gassed and uninspired from the time we faced Carolina through the playoffs. 
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Quote: @TBro said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
Hernandez doesn't fit the Vikings stretch zone scheme. He doesn't have the ability to get out and run in space. Good player though. 

Unfortunately the D-line class doesn't provide many up field pass rushers this year. There is a lot of balance and some good run stoppers. I personally wouldn't trade anything substantial to Cincinnati for Atkins since he is in the last year of his deal. Extending him at age 30 isn't idea considering the money he'd still be able to leverage. Sheldon Richardson would cost roughly the same amount and you wouldn't have to give up a draft pick to grab him. Do I think its likely they give him the money he is looking for? No. But I wouldn't be shocked if they went that direction either.

My guess is that they draft a player, resign one or both of Tom Johnson/Shamar Stephen, then take a flier on a FA like Dominique Easley. Depending how high they take a player in the draft you're left with a stable of Linval Joseph, Tom Johnson, Jaleel Johnson, Shamar Stephen (?), Rookie, Easley. That isn't a bad stable of talent.    
Richardson's stats were very average last year in Seattle for a guy that wants to test free agency and is looking for a big pay day. I would avoid him and I wouldn't give up picks for Atkins. I think Easley has some promise. He is still young and has never been a full-time starter. He has the physical tools that Zimmer could mold into a productive 3T. Are you saying that you don't really see any options in the draft to fix our Pass Rush? Everyone knew about Griffins foot injury, but I was surprised at how ineffective our pass rush was at the end of the season. Hunter disappeared, and we were not getting any push up the middle. They all looked gassed and uninspired from the time we faced Carolina through the playoffs. 
There are a limited amount of interior pass rushers that could come in and help now, which is really what the front office is after. Hurst makes sense for a number of reasons but I don't know if he'll meet the Vikings size thresholds. Floyd was drafted by the previous regime and Zimmer is very very picky about his D-lineman. 

Richardson's stats were diluted since he played with Avril (part of the year) and Bennett. If you watch some of the Seahawks D-line film he still is one of the best interior players in the league and shedding of his block and using his athleticism to get up field. The Vikings interest will boil down to how his market shapes up. If there is a lot of interest he could end up getting paid $12+M per season on his new deal. The Vikings would have no part of that. But if there is a cooler amount of interest and he could be had in the range of $7-10M annually I'd expect them to strongly consider it. Last years interior lineman market wasn't great, which makes question where it will go this off-season.  
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#10
Quote: @"Geoff Nichols" said:
@TBro said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
Hernandez doesn't fit the Vikings stretch zone scheme. He doesn't have the ability to get out and run in space. Good player though. 

Unfortunately the D-line class doesn't provide many up field pass rushers this year. There is a lot of balance and some good run stoppers. I personally wouldn't trade anything substantial to Cincinnati for Atkins since he is in the last year of his deal. Extending him at age 30 isn't idea considering the money he'd still be able to leverage. Sheldon Richardson would cost roughly the same amount and you wouldn't have to give up a draft pick to grab him. Do I think its likely they give him the money he is looking for? No. But I wouldn't be shocked if they went that direction either.

My guess is that they draft a player, resign one or both of Tom Johnson/Shamar Stephen, then take a flier on a FA like Dominique Easley. Depending how high they take a player in the draft you're left with a stable of Linval Joseph, Tom Johnson, Jaleel Johnson, Shamar Stephen (?), Rookie, Easley. That isn't a bad stable of talent.    
Richardson's stats were very average last year in Seattle for a guy that wants to test free agency and is looking for a big pay day. I would avoid him and I wouldn't give up picks for Atkins. I think Easley has some promise. He is still young and has never been a full-time starter. He has the physical tools that Zimmer could mold into a productive 3T. Are you saying that you don't really see any options in the draft to fix our Pass Rush? Everyone knew about Griffins foot injury, but I was surprised at how ineffective our pass rush was at the end of the season. Hunter disappeared, and we were not getting any push up the middle. They all looked gassed and uninspired from the time we faced Carolina through the playoffs. 
There are a limited amount of interior pass rushers that could come in and help now, which is really what the front office is after. Hurst makes sense for a number of reasons but I don't know if he'll meet the Vikings size thresholds. Floyd was drafted by the previous regime and Zimmer is very very picky about his D-lineman. 

Richardson's stats were diluted since he played with Avril (part of the year) and Bennett. If you watch some of the Seahawks D-line film he still is one of the best interior players in the league and shedding of his block and using his athleticism to get up field. The Vikings interest will boil down to how his market shapes up. If there is a lot of interest he could end up getting paid $12+M per season on his new deal. The Vikings would have no part of that. But if there is a cooler amount of interest and he could be had in the range of $7-10M annually I'd expect them to strongly consider it. Last years interior lineman market wasn't great, which makes question where it will go this off-season.  
Assuming he's available, could you put a guy like Vea next to Linval and have them co-exist effectively? I know most 3T's are usually less than 300 lbs, but those two together in the middle would be disruptive. I'm thinking of a bigger version of Pat and Kevin Williams. I like Hurst's quickness and athletic ability, but I wonder if he is a little too small to hold up at the pro level and doubt he will be there at 30. 
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