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not on Case.  OL sucked and so did the much vaunted D.  38 points?  pathetic.  They need to stop reading their stats.

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@Caactorvike said:
not on Case.  OL sucked and so did the much vaunted D.  38 points?  pathetic.  They need to stop reading their stats.

And how much did that "vaunted D" give-up to the Saints in the second 1/2 in addition to today's 38? 

(insert vomit emoji here)

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@Ilovebigtd's said:
lets be real case keenum doesnt excell in pressure situation and frankly hes not good when the line isnt holding up. if you look at teddys numbers he was rated a top 5 qb vs the blitz and pressure. my man has like 5 game winning drives in his career. keenum was a nice story (incredibly lucky) teddy just has IT. 

The Head Coach who loves Teddy more than anyone didn't even activate him in the Playoffs. What does that say about where Teddy is at? Our 3rd down offense was one of the best in the league this year and that was due to the job Case did making plays under pressure. I hope Teddy can get back to where he was, but it's pretty telling that our Coaching staff didn't have enough confidence in him to even be a backup. I would like to have Teddy and Case next year. We should have enough cap room to sign both but Case has earned starter money. Teddy will have to take an incentive deal from us, but I have heard that there are plenty of other teams willing to throw some money at Teddy who desperately need a starter. 

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I would say Case is partially to blame, but it isn't all on him. The offensive line didn't do him any favors tonight, but he missed throws too. Both Bridgewater/Bradford would have performed poorly with such little time. I do think this gives you some hesitation before you tag him for $23M though. You have the defense and skill players, do you risk it for $23M on Keenum or call all in on a more proven commodity (Brees/Cousins). 

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Seriously? That's ridiculous. It was the OL getting the credit all season long. What about them tonight? This game showed we need more help there.  I want them to sign Keenum. It will be interesting to see what happens to Sam and Teddy though.

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@Vikergirl said:
Seriously? That's ridiculous. It was the OL getting the credit all season long. What about them tonight? This game showed we need more help there.  I don't want them not to sign Keenum. 

Depends on the price. Although I wouldn't count it out I don't know if this performance convinces you to spend $23M on Case via the tag. The O-Line still needs to be improved, but what else can you get for $23M is the question? 

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@"Geoff Nichols" said:
I would say Case is partially to blame, but it isn't all on him. The offensive line didn't do him any favors tonight, but he missed throws too. Both Bridgewater/Bradford would have performed poorly with such little time. I do think this gives you some hesitation before you tag him for $23M though. You have the defense and skill players, do you risk it for $23M on Keenum or call all in on a more proven commodity (Brees/Cousins). 

Worst situation for any of qb's was exactly what happened. To fall behind and get one dimensional. Against that D, on the road, on grass.

Brees? Hell yah, but I don't see him leaving that town or franchise. I know they've got some cap issues and players to reconcile with but the Saints (imo) have a very bright future and strong, young nucleus. Lordy I am tired of the qb questions that have plagued this franchise since Pepp went down in 05. UGH 

Geoff, I'm starting to wonder if that vaunted Viking D is really schematically that good? They've looked pretty vulnerable as of late. Not sure how much of this to lay at the feet of Zimm/Edwards vs Players? Maybe it's not an either or thing...And someone will surely call me out for questioning them given the statistics they put on the board this year. 

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Injuries to Bradford and Teddy gives rise to questions about mobility and durability.
I love them both, but Bradfords two ACL's, and Teddys severity of injury / durability
call them both into question. I'm sure they will he picked up, somewhere, and probably have a good season until yet another injury sidelines them.

That leaves Keenum and Sloter, and I suspect a draft pick. I know that fans are impatient ( especially Vikings fans) but if you can believe a QB can improve, then you've almost gotta stick with the three aforementioned. 

Things I value in a QB are 1. Accuracy  2. Durability.  3. "IT" (Leadership / Moxy)

Case has shown these things all year, grown into his role as the starter....and every week we expected him to "blow it".... We're surprised when he didn't.....and expected him to "blow it" 
the next week.....he didn't.  All the way to the NFCC.

tonight was a syllabus of errors, the "team" blew it.  I thought our Defense would win the day, put up at least 21 points and keep the Eagles to 17.

we aren't going to win in a "shoot out", we need to control the LOS, and we didnt

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This isn't about who (singularly) was 100% at fault for the loss.  The D sucked.  The OLine sucked.  The coaches sucked.  Case sucked.

I think the Case we saw today, is the Case we'll see if the OLine isn't performing well and we're not completely shutting teams out and playing from behind.  I'm not convinced Keenum is the long term guy for us.  I'd rather roll the dice on Bridgewater at this point.  I think any mediocre QB will get us to the playoffs, but we need to find a guy that is a plus QB if we want to make the next step.

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OL was bad tonite and they were bad in the 2nd half last week.  Defense was horrendous tinite and in the 2nd half last week.  Not all on Case by any means.  Bridgewater or Bradford would have got killed in both of the last two games.  This team just collapsed.