Quote: @StickyBun said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ pumpf said:
As someone else said, what we're seeing is the symptom- not the sickness. In my opinion, the "sickness" is relativism has taken hold as an accepted personal philosophy for many people; in other words, "the ends justify the means". Everything is permissible- as long as it benefits me. That's what makes it OK to tear other people down- with lies- and feel good about it: because it is for the greater good (and, therefore, justifiably "moral").
....what social media does mostly is give anonymity. Or at the very least, not face to face discussion (Facebook) and the ability to communicate your every whim to all of cyber space. A forum. So your possible latent racism, homophobia, harsh criticism or other cynicism gets to be displayed unlike it would have been otherwise. Drunk posting. The instantaneous gut reaction to something that you might regret after 5 minutes of reflection. All of the above. There's no repercussion for treating people poorly or without respect as their would sitting next to someone.
The same toxic feelings/emotions have always existed, they've just never had these kinds of platforms before.
Yes and no, I think people now have strong opinions (rarely well informed ones) on matters that in the past they would maybe not even have been exposed to. (Both good and bad...mostly bad)
Yep. My Mom takes what she reads on Facebook as the truth and its such horribly false information. Fear mongering. Manipulative.
I've got Facebook and have a total of 3 friends due to my wife using it. I get requests, but I always politely decline as I dont really use it as it was intended, I pretty much use it to look at social pages for organizations and for sale pages for used outdoors stuff. Other than that I am usually scared at what I see on some peoples pages....ugh.
( oh and when my kids start dating some body I don't know...yeah...I think it's called creeping :# )
Facebook is nothing but practice for your kids dropping you off at the nursing home, is what I found. Dad, dad, dad, you gotta get facebook, it’s so cool! Over and over and over.... well I did... and bam they quit using it. Now I’m stuck with a bunch of “strangers” who think I want to know all about their lives. Sure I have some friends on there as well, but mostly it’s crap and extremely entrusive crap too. Meanwhile my kids swing by maybe once every month, mostly to tell me to get Tweeter, Snapgram or Instachat... =)
Quote: @greediron said:
IMO, social media is a symptom, not the cause. It may have a hand in the behavior and certainly feeds the beast, but the selfish, look at me generation was already there waiting for it. It isn't the "this generation... blah blah blah, get off my lawn" either. There are some serious issues with a majority of the youth. Horrible behavior, so much lacking.
I hear what you're saying. Teens can be absolutely horrible to each other, and social media gives them a venue to be the worst they can be. Online bullying and the false reality social media presents, especially Facebook, can be really destructive for teens.
I will say this, though: In my experience, young people (and by "young people" I mean anyone roughly under 35) seem to approach with much more cynicism than older folks. They seem to at least acknowledge the false reality, whereas older folks, folks who grew up trying to keep up with the Joneses, use Facebook to show just how well they've done in that effort. And when it comes to social, cultural and political topics, younger people tend to verify the truth of something before posting it. Some of the most ridiculous things I've seen on social media are by older people--parents, aunts, uncles, mothers in law, etc. Batshit crazy conspiracy theories, urban myths, nonsense MEMEs. I often find it's the kids who respond "hey, grandma, you might want to check Snopes.com."
Social media is still in it’s infancy. It’s just not a mature technology yet, and
people haven’t figured out how to fit it into their lives yet.
The transparency portion of social media is a critical
portion of democracy going forward. As
we move forward, it is essential that the corrupt not be allowed to control the
narrative via the media that they control.
While they do astroturf and spam social media, it’s much harder for them
to control the narrative. At best they can
make everything confusing with disinformation making it hard for people to hone
in on the truth.
It’s a bullshit proposition to suggest that social media is
more likely to screw up society than mainstream media. With mainstream media, most people have been
assuming that what they’ve been told is real and truthful, but not really
analyzing their information sources for truthfulness. Now we’re just at a point where we realize
they haven’t been truthful or at best selectively truthful, and we’re learning
how to deal with the fact that we can’t assume things people say are
automatically true.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ greediron said:
IMO, social media is a symptom, not the cause. It may have a hand in the behavior and certainly feeds the beast, but the selfish, look at me generation was already there waiting for it. It isn't the "this generation... blah blah blah, get off my lawn" either. There are some serious issues with a majority of the youth. Horrible behavior, so much lacking.
I hear what you're saying. Teens can be absolutely horrible to each other, and social media gives them a venue to be the worst they can be. Online bullying and the false reality social media presents, especially Facebook, can be really destructive for teens.
I will say this, though: In my experience, young people (and by "young people" I mean anyone roughly under 35) seem to approach with much more cynicism than older folks. They seem to at least acknowledge the false reality, whereas older folks, folks who grew up trying to keep up with the Joneses, use Facebook to show just how well they've done in that effort. And when it comes to social, cultural and political topics, younger people tend to verify the truth of something before posting it. Some of the most ridiculous things I've seen on social media are by older people--parents, aunts, uncles, mothers in law, etc. Batshit crazy conspiracy theories, urban myths, nonsense MEMEs. I often find it's the kids who respond "hey, grandma, you might want to check Snopes.com."
Social media has nothing on email in that sense. I could always tell when a person was new to email cuz I got the same warnings emailed to me in 31 different flavors.
As to the bullying, again I think it is more of a symptom. So many kids have no self worth, don't value life and often seek validation in the wrong venues. So when their world "social media" gets torn down, they have nothing else.
Bullying has always been a part of kids and peer groups. How the parents react to it is where the huge problem lies now. Parents will defend/protect/pardon most any offense their child has done because they have no discipline themselves and disciplining their child would mean more work.
LOL you can’t make this shit up. Bunch of old people bitching about social media on one of the oldest forms of social media out there.
Cracks me up man. Literally the same gripes about anonymity, echo chambers, inane arguments, false info being diseminated, and everything else is exactly the same thing that happens here (or on other forums) and the bitching pissing and moaning is the same too!
pure comedy.
Quote: @Mike Olson said:
LOL you can’t make this shit up. Bunch of old people bitching about social media on one of the oldest forms of social media out there.
Cracks me up man. Literally the same gripes about anonymity, echo chambers, inane arguments, false info being diseminated, and everything else is exactly the same thing that happens here (or on other forums) and the bitching pissing and moaning is the same too!
pure comedy.
still waiting for you to code in some truth meter/fact checking to rate the posts... 
These dinosaurs are a different beast than the social media my kids do.
One girl can body shame another in front of the whole school in minutes with one tweet. No anonymity.
Quote: @Mike Olson said:
LOL you can’t make this shit up. Bunch of old people bitching about social media on one of the oldest forms of social media out there.
Cracks me up man. Literally the same gripes about anonymity, echo chambers, inane arguments, false info being diseminated, and everything else is exactly the same thing that happens here (or on other forums) and the bitching pissing and moaning is the same too!
pure comedy.
Slight difference between the old forums and chatrooms of yesterday versus facebook, twitter, instagram, snapchat, etc. today.
Quote: @Mike Olson said:
LOL you can’t make this shit up. Bunch of old people bitching about social media on one of the oldest forms of social media out there.
Cracks me up man. Literally the same gripes about anonymity, echo chambers, inane arguments, false info being diseminated, and everything else is exactly the same thing that happens here (or on other forums) and the bitching pissing and moaning is the same too!
pure comedy.
? Did you even read the article?
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