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11-15-2017, 06:01 PM

well, guess it was just indigestion.

On to the Rams.

11-15-2017, 06:11 PM

Quote: @Mike Olson said:

@greediron said:Obviously Zimmer sees something, enough to create this drama.
He is creating the drama because you don't tell the other team which player is starting when you don't have to.

I dont see how that would be an advantage in this case.. there is no film of Teddy in this offense to distract the Rams with. They are going to prepare for Case regardless because Teddy, to those outside of team practice, have no idea what to expect differently from Case.

11-15-2017, 06:21 PM

Quote: @JimmyinSD said:

@Mike Olson said:

@greediron said:Obviously Zimmer sees something, enough to create this drama.
He is creating the drama because you don't tell the other team which player is starting when you don't have to.
I dont see how that would be an advantage in this case.. there is no film of Teddy in this offense to distract the Rams with. They are going to prepare for Case regardless because Teddy, to those outside of team practice, have no idea what to expect differently from Case.

Nobody said that the games the coaches play make any sense. It's just what they do. They don't tip their hand until they have to. Pretty standard operating procedure (especially for Zimmer)

11-15-2017, 06:24 PM

Quote: @Mike Olson said:

@JimmyinSD said:

@Mike Olson said:

@greediron said:Obviously Zimmer sees something, enough to create this drama.
He is creating the drama because you don't tell the other team which player is starting when you don't have to.
I dont see how that would be an advantage in this case.. there is no film of Teddy in this offense to distract the Rams with. They are going to prepare for Case regardless because Teddy, to those outside of team practice, have no idea what to expect differently from Case.
Nobody said that the games the coaches play make any sense. It's just what they do. They don't tip their hand until they have to. Pretty standard operating procedure (especially for Zimmer)

except it would make sense if it would actually force the opponent to prepare for two scenarios, not the case here though. maybe if Sam was available I could see the secrecy but not here unless he wasnt 100% sure what direction he was heading at the time of the monday presser.

11-16-2017, 01:29 AM

Quote: @greediron said:

@comet52 said:
I think this endless debating is interesting but pointless, because for the Vikings staff and f.o. this decision is simply a question of are you interested in gambling with your season today?

You are 7-2 with great momentum. You decide to insert TB at some random point and you have 3 possible outcomes:

1. somehow after nearly 2 years without playing in a regular season game and 15 months since he played at all, TB comes in on a surgically repaired but untested knee and is some sort of amazing qb, greatly bettering his stats from the past. Your gamble pays off. Superbowl homeboy. All the Teddy fanboys are 100% sure this is what will happen.

2. TB comes in and is up and down and struggling and you lose the momentum. Now you are in a quandary. If this continues you may go back to CK, but in the process you are probably losing games and the team is psychologically breaking down because your leadership has failed them, you made a huge mistake that likely killed what was a great season. This is what I'm pretty sure would happen.

3. TB comes in and is flat out awful. This might be salvageable if he gets a quick hook, you mumble post game about needing more recovery time, and go back to CK. If it doesn't result in more than one loss the team can brush it off and continue the fight with a shot at winning it all. This would be the luckier of the 2 bad outcomes because it's easier to recover from.

Lots of opportunities for the Vikings to mess this season up here, I expect they'll try because that's what they do, historically. A sensible team would not gamble. But sensible is not a word I've ever associated with our beloved Purple.
First off, insults are rarely a way to have reasoned discussion. And no one is 100% sure what will happen.

And you left off the other options

4. Stick with Case
A. He continues to win but doesn't improve. He starts and fails in the playoffs.
B. He struggles down the stretch and gets replaced mid december giving Teddy not much time to shake the rust
C. He continues to start and we thrive in the playoffs. Is anyone confident this will happen?

And all of these leave us with the unanswered question about our QB for next year.

What makes you feel insulted, exactly?

I didn't mentioned possibilities with Keenum because that's not the topic. The possibilities with Keenum are playing out each week he steps on the field and we win another game. The topic as far as I'm concerned is how this team could well take a dive if a winning CK is yanked on a whim.