I've felt all along that the Rams game would be Teddy's first game back provided he's healthy enough. It feels like a "safer" scenario starting him at home his first game back rather than on the road in Washington. I think Teddy starts taking a lot more first-team reps next week and Zim plays a little gamesmanship with Washington, ultimately starting Case one more game.
Unless Case absolutely lights it up next week, I see Teddy taking over vs. the Rams. Look, Case gracefully bowed out when we rushed Sam back....then came in and helped us win when Sam couldn't go anymore. I think he knows the situation, and so does the team. I don't feel putting Teddy in is going to mess with the chemistry of the team at all. Teddy is going to provide a HUGE emotional boost for the whole team knowing what he came back from.
Quote: @greediron said:
@ Norse said:
In Teddy's playoff experience he had a QB rating of 33.9 and no touchdowns.
what do you rate that at?
Because one playoff game in the coldest game ever is such a good indicator? What was Wilson's rating that game?
Wilson 43.2
Teddy 32.3
So cold is the excuse...
lol, that cold is not a excuse, it is a reality. They played a conservative game plan and really didn't open up until the last drive. Which Teddy executed very well.
Nobody is saying he can't do better, doesn't have much left to prove. But to throw out his "playoff" rating as the norm for him is willfully ignorant or deceptive.
Quote: @greediron said:
lol, that cold is not a excuse, it is a reality. They played a conservative game plan and really didn't open up until the last drive. Which Teddy executed very well.
Nobody is saying he can't do better, doesn't have much left to prove. But to throw out his "playoff" rating as the norm for him is willfully ignorant or deceptive.
I put that out there because it was mentioned if we didn't play Teddy we would have a mediocre quarterback for the wildcard.
Teddy is the only QB while injured with one good leg. That has seemed to improved his game from 14td's and 9 interceptions (the last season he played) To a sure thing in the playoffs.
Which is pretty Amazing!
Quote: @Norse said:
@ greediron said:
lol, that cold is not a excuse, it is a reality. They played a conservative game plan and really didn't open up until the last drive. Which Teddy executed very well.
Nobody is saying he can't do better, doesn't have much left to prove. But to throw out his "playoff" rating as the norm for him is willfully ignorant or deceptive.
I put that out there because it was mentioned if we didn't play Teddy we would have a mediocre quarterback for the wildcard.
Teddy is the only QB while injured with one good leg. That has seemed to improved his game from 14td's and 9 interceptions (the last season he played) To a sure thing in the playoffs.
Which is pretty Amazing!
What's amazing is that you equate Teddy behind a crappy Line being asked to forcefeed AP the ball on 1st and 2nd down and then take 7 step.drops on 3rd and long with his primary target being Wallace with this current team.
Context matters. 2014 Teddy in a time capsule would still be improved just by virtue of such a markedly better, well, everything!
Better Line. RBs that can actually catch the ball and pick up blitzes. 2 Elite, well-rounded WRs. OC that actually fits his strengths.
Again, context matters.
Quote: @FSUVike said:
@ Norse said:
@ greediron said:
lol, that cold is not a excuse, it is a reality. They played a conservative game plan and really didn't open up until the last drive. Which Teddy executed very well.
Nobody is saying he can't do better, doesn't have much left to prove. But to throw out his "playoff" rating as the norm for him is willfully ignorant or deceptive.
I put that out there because it was mentioned if we didn't play Teddy we would have a mediocre quarterback for the wildcard.
Teddy is the only QB while injured with one good leg. That has seemed to improved his game from 14td's and 9 interceptions (the last season he played) To a sure thing in the playoffs.
Which is pretty Amazing!
What's amazing is that you equate Teddy behind a crappy Line being asked to forcefeed AP the ball on 1st and 2nd down and then take 7 step.drops on 3rd and long with his primary target being Wallace with this current team.
Context matters. 2014 Teddy in a time capsule would still be improved just by virtue of such a markedly better, well, everything!
Better Line. RBs that can actually catch the ball and pick up blitzes. 2 Elite, well-rounded WRs. OC that actually fits his strengths.
Again, context matters.
Crappy line?? It got AP the rushing title..
Quote: @greediron said:
lol, that cold is not a excuse, it is a reality. They played a conservative game plan and really didn't open up until the last drive. Which Teddy executed very well.
Nobody is saying he can't do better, doesn't have much left to prove. But to throw out his "playoff" rating as the norm for him is willfully ignorant or deceptive.
IT was a conservative game plan. But we REALLY DON'T KNOW if that call to Rudie was the only time they opened it up or not.
I think a lot of fans are forgetting Bridgewater checked down a lot, too much. He could not throw deep well or throw deep accurately, let alone toss a back-shoulder fade like most nfl qb's can make and have to make. @ Norse said: Quote:
@ FSUVike said:
@ Norse said:
@ greediron said:
lol, that cold is not a excuse, it is a reality. They played a conservative game plan and really didn't open up until the last drive. Which Teddy executed very well.
Nobody is saying he can't do better, doesn't have much left to prove. But to throw out his "playoff" rating as the norm for him is willfully ignorant or deceptive.
I put that out there because it was mentioned if we didn't play Teddy we would have a mediocre quarterback for the wildcard.
Teddy is the only QB while injured with one good leg. That has seemed to improved his game from 14td's and 9 interceptions (the last season he played) To a sure thing in the playoffs.
Which is pretty Amazing!
What's amazing is that you equate Teddy behind a crappy Line being asked to forcefeed AP the ball on 1st and 2nd down and then take 7 step.drops on 3rd and long with his primary target being Wallace with this current team.
Context matters. 2014 Teddy in a time capsule would still be improved just by virtue of such a markedly better, well, everything!
Better Line. RBs that can actually catch the ball and pick up blitzes. 2 Elite, well-rounded WRs. OC that actually fits his strengths.
Again, context matters.
Crappy line?? It got AP the rushing title..
That line was decent at run-blocking, terrible @ pass blocking.
Quote: @purplefaithful said:
@ greediron said:
lol, that cold is not a excuse, it is a reality. They played a conservative game plan and really didn't open up until the last drive. Which Teddy executed very well.
Nobody is saying he can't do better, doesn't have much left to prove. But to throw out his "playoff" rating as the norm for him is willfully ignorant or deceptive.
IT was a conservative game plan. But we REALLY DON'T KNOW if that call to Rudie was the only time they opened it up or not.
I think a lot of fans are forgetting Bridgewater checked down a lot, too much. He could not throw deep well or throw deep accurately, let alone toss a back-shoulder fade like most nfl qb's can make and have to make. @ Norse said: Quote:
That line was decent at run-blocking, terrible @ pass blocking.
A second year QB with a strong defense, I wonder who told him to check down and avoid risky throws? And on a record cold day, even Wilson wasn't risking much.
Quote: @CFIAvike said:
I've felt all along that the Rams game would be Teddy's first game back provided he's healthy enough. It feels like a "safer" scenario starting him at home his first game back rather than on the road in Washington. I think Teddy starts taking a lot more first-team reps next week and Zim plays a little gamesmanship with Washington, ultimately starting Case one more game.
Unless Case absolutely lights it up next week, I see Teddy taking over vs. the Rams. Look, Case gracefully bowed out when we rushed Sam back....then came in and helped us win when Sam couldn't go anymore. I think he knows the situation, and so does the team. I don't feel putting Teddy in is going to mess with the chemistry of the team at all. Teddy is going to provide a HUGE emotional boost for the whole team knowing what he came back from.
I think the emotional boost is a bit overplayed. Nearly everyone besides for a few receivers are new this year. This is a completely new offense. The crowd would go wild on the first couple drives, but if they are 3 and outs and or non-scoring, that good will be like the 4th Christmas present to a 2 year old on Christmas morning.
People thinking that he's going to come in and set the place on fire are going to be sad and possibly angry. It's going to take him at least 4 games if he's human to get his feet underneath him and get a rhythm. To me that's probably playing a a notch below what we've seen out of Case so far. So he MIGHT be better than Case by week 12. Is everyone willing to take a step back for a few weeks to see what develops, with the hope that Teddy is going to be a better Teddy than what we remember?
Quote: @greediron said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ greediron said:
lol, that cold is not a excuse, it is a reality. They played a conservative game plan and really didn't open up until the last drive. Which Teddy executed very well.
Nobody is saying he can't do better, doesn't have much left to prove. But to throw out his "playoff" rating as the norm for him is willfully ignorant or deceptive.
IT was a conservative game plan. But we REALLY DON'T KNOW if that call to Rudie was the only time they opened it up or not.
I think a lot of fans are forgetting Bridgewater checked down a lot, too much. He could not throw deep well or throw deep accurately, let alone toss a back-shoulder fade like most nfl qb's can make and have to make. @ Norse said: Quote:
That line was decent at run-blocking, terrible @ pass blocking.
A second year QB with a strong defense, I wonder who told him to check down and avoid risky throws? And on a record cold day, even Wilson wasn't risking much.
That wasn't my point greed...My point was we really don't know how many times they asked Teddy to open it up or not?
Your post was asserting they asked him to throw downfield just once and he delivered that just once.
Anyways, water under the Bridge...Ha! I made a pun.
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