Someone does not want to like Treadwell. My only conclusion when you blame a WR for being interfered with, silly really.
Honestly, I think Treadwell was trying to go for the pass interference call. He is the one who originally placed his hand on Carr's side and seemed to keep it under Carr's arm. When Treadwell first tipped the ball, he then had no problem freeing his left hand and using it to tip the ball again, this time right into the defender's hands. It was a very odd looking catch attempt and I don't think it can all be blamed on the defender.
Regardless, all we keep hearing is that when Treadwell is single-covered, he is open because he is such a physical receiver. I have yet to see any evidence of that and do not blame Bradford or Keenum at all for their unwillingness to throw it to him. He has been man-handled on any jump balls that he has been thrown so far this year.
Once again, Wright comes in and produces on far fewer snaps than Treadwell. It constantly bugs me to see LT on the field over better WRs.
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@ Mike Olson said:
If Treadwell learned his craft more in the mold of carter or as a tight end uses their body to shield the catch I think he could be very useful. I don't think you are ever going to see him beat his man consistently. But he has decent size, and an offseason weight training regimen could maybe help him transform his game to be that possession receiver type guy. I think he has the frame to carry more muscle but maybe not with his knee. Not sure. But I'd like to see it.
whats wrong with his knee? wasnt it a broken leg that set him back a year or so?
Yeah you are right. Sorry... ya know... we've had so many knee issues it's the go to injury.
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@ JimmyinSD said:
@ Mike Olson said:
If Treadwell learned his craft more in the mold of carter or as a tight end uses their body to shield the catch I think he could be very useful. I don't think you are ever going to see him beat his man consistently. But he has decent size, and an offseason weight training regimen could maybe help him transform his game to be that possession receiver type guy. I think he has the frame to carry more muscle but maybe not with his knee. Not sure. But I'd like to see it.
whats wrong with his knee? wasnt it a broken leg that set him back a year or so?
Yeah you are right. Sorry... ya know... we've had so many knee issues it's the go to injury.
whew... I thought I missed one... you are spot on with how i think they need to view and use Treadwell. He will continue to get stronger, ( i think people forget how young he was when we took him) He looks much improved this year and is definitely a large framed kid with a great catch radius.
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@ Purplewhizz said:
@ Mike Olson said:
@ ATXVIKE said:
@ HappyViking said:
Treadwell had 3 catches and Wright had 3 catches. The #1 WR, Thielen, had a total of 5 catches for 41 yards. Actually, Treadwell averaged 9 yards per catch compared to AT's 8 yards per, so he's getting first downs.
Wright had impressive grabs, but it's not like he "blew up" the stat sheet. I didn't see any drops by LT, and I thought he actually played well.
ANY DROPS? He gave up an interception. He fucked up his hand placement and literally allowed his right arm to be trapped by the Defenders arm and popped the ball up for an INT! The 1st damn throw by CK! That's about 1000 times worse than a drop. Do you even watch the games?
He was interfered with. How is that on Treadwell?
He turned the wrong way. Instead of using his body to shield the defender from the ball, he turned to face him and turned it into a hand battle.
He turned towards the ball. If he had turned his back to the defender the pass would have been behind him.
LMAO, if he turned the other way he would have been looking out of bounds and the pass would have hit him in the back. Of course that is if he could have turned that way before the defender clamped down on his arm.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ Mike Olson said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ Mike Olson said:
If Treadwell learned his craft more in the mold of carter or as a tight end uses their body to shield the catch I think he could be very useful. I don't think you are ever going to see him beat his man consistently. But he has decent size, and an offseason weight training regimen could maybe help him transform his game to be that possession receiver type guy. I think he has the frame to carry more muscle but maybe not with his knee. Not sure. But I'd like to see it.
whats wrong with his knee? wasnt it a broken leg that set him back a year or so?
Yeah you are right. Sorry... ya know... we've had so many knee issues it's the go to injury.
whew... I thought I missed one... you are spot on with how i think they need to view and use Treadwell. He will continue to get stronger, ( i think people forget how young he was when we took him) He looks much improved this year and is definitely a large framed kid with a great catch radius.
But Juju Smith-Schuster was drafted even younger - he's still only 20, youngest player in the NFL, but managing to catch passes.
All these theories, but isn't the most likely that Treadwell's problem is the same that has been propose since before he was drafted: maybe he's just not fast enough to be a NFL WR in 2017?
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@ JimmyinSD said:
@ Mike Olson said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ Mike Olson said:
If Treadwell learned his craft more in the mold of carter or as a tight end uses their body to shield the catch I think he could be very useful. I don't think you are ever going to see him beat his man consistently. But he has decent size, and an offseason weight training regimen could maybe help him transform his game to be that possession receiver type guy. I think he has the frame to carry more muscle but maybe not with his knee. Not sure. But I'd like to see it.
whats wrong with his knee? wasnt it a broken leg that set him back a year or so?
Yeah you are right. Sorry... ya know... we've had so many knee issues it's the go to injury.
whew... I thought I missed one... you are spot on with how i think they need to view and use Treadwell. He will continue to get stronger, ( i think people forget how young he was when we took him) He looks much improved this year and is definitely a large framed kid with a great catch radius.
But Juju Smith-Schuster was drafted even younger - he's still only 20, youngest player in the NFL, but managing to catch passes.
All these theories, but isn't the most likely that Treadwell's problem is the same that has been propose since before he was drafted: maybe he's just not fast enough to be a NFL WR in 2017?
No.
I think the biggest misconception with Treadwell was that everyone expected him to develop into a mirror image of what he did at Ole Miss. That just isn't realistic given his physical limitations as a player. It's not pretty but he has played with a lot of grit early this season being a key blocker. Slowly his production has increased as he's developed a rapport with Keenum.
if Treadwell had not been taken in the forst round he would be a practise squad guy
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ Purplewhizz said:
@ Mike Olson said:
@ ATXVIKE said:
@ HappyViking said:
Treadwell had 3 catches and Wright had 3 catches. The #1 WR, Thielen, had a total of 5 catches for 41 yards. Actually, Treadwell averaged 9 yards per catch compared to AT's 8 yards per, so he's getting first downs.
Wright had impressive grabs, but it's not like he "blew up" the stat sheet. I didn't see any drops by LT, and I thought he actually played well.
ANY DROPS? He gave up an interception. He fucked up his hand placement and literally allowed his right arm to be trapped by the Defenders arm and popped the ball up for an INT! The 1st damn throw by CK! That's about 1000 times worse than a drop. Do you even watch the games?
He was interfered with. How is that on Treadwell?
He turned the wrong way. Instead of using his body to shield the defender from the ball, he turned to face him and turned it into a hand battle.
He turned towards the ball. If he had turned his back to the defender the pass would have been behind him.
The ball was underthrown. He should have shielded the defender by turning towards the ball, I agree. But by that I mean he would be turning his back to the end zone and facing the ball and QB, avoiding the jump ball and putting the defender behind him.
That's what a more seasoned veteran like Diggs or Thielan would have done in that situation.
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