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		Quote:  @StickyBun said:
 
  And Carr/Oakland is not playing well right now. Or not nearly as well as I would have expected this year.   Carr 2-3 6 turnovers with QBR 38.6.  That's bad even if you dont' like QBR.    He's just not playing well so far this year.@Skodin  said: 
  i disagree. other boards, comments sections in the star tribune etc, there is a lot of teddy doubt, there was a lot of doubt back in 2015 and going into 2016.  I have seen many fans say he’s mediocre, or a game manager at best, especially in comparison to Carr 
That's because Carr is a franchise QB. Carr threw for 81 TDs and only 31 INTs his first 3 years. Teddy can't touch those numbers. Bridgewater might be mediocre or he could be better than that. How does that translate to hate? Its just the current facts.  
		
	 
	
	
		Quote:  @twgerber said:
 
  He's dealing with a back injury.@StickyBun  said:
   
  @Skodin  said: 
  i disagree. other boards, comments sections in the star tribune etc, there is a lot of teddy doubt, there was a lot of doubt back in 2015 and going into 2016.  I have seen many fans say he’s mediocre, or a game manager at best, especially in comparison to Carr 
That's because Carr is a franchise QB. Carr threw for 81 TDs and only 31 INTs his first 3 years. Teddy can't touch those numbers. Bridgewater might be mediocre or he could be better than that. How does that translate to hate? Its just the current facts.  
And Carr/Oakland is not playing well right now. Or not nearly as well as I would have expected this year.   Carr 2-3 6 turnovers with QBR 38.6.  That's bad even if you dont' like QBR.    He's just not playing well so far this year.   
		
	 
	
	
		Simply put I don't think he's a very good QB. Of course I don't think he is really a bad Qb either. Is that hate? I don't think so. He just hasn't done a whole lot to impress me. He is a great guy though. Hope his career takes off like a rocket.  
		
	 
	
	
		There are some that think you have to be Team Teddy or Team Sam. That's stupid. I am Team Minnesota. But anyone that would hate Teddy is an idiot. What's not to like about him? Seriously? He is a good guy. He is doing all the right things. He never wanted pity. He just keeps grinding. How can you not root for a guy like that?  
		
	 
	
	
		Quote:  @twgerber said:
 
  Haven't watched them, but is it Carr or the rest of the offense.  Without diving into politics, I know the Raiders have dealt with some division regarding the anthem.  A team divided and distracted isn't going to play very well.@StickyBun  said:
   
  @Skodin  said: 
  i disagree. other boards, comments sections in the star tribune etc, there is a lot of teddy doubt, there was a lot of doubt back in 2015 and going into 2016.  I have seen many fans say he’s mediocre, or a game manager at best, especially in comparison to Carr 
That's because Carr is a franchise QB. Carr threw for 81 TDs and only 31 INTs his first 3 years. Teddy can't touch those numbers. Bridgewater might be mediocre or he could be better than that. How does that translate to hate? Its just the current facts.  
And Carr/Oakland is not playing well right now. Or not nearly as well as I would have expected this year.   Carr 2-3 6 turnovers with QBR 38.6.  That's bad even if you dont' like QBR.    He's just not playing well so far this year.   
 
		
	 
	
	
		So I guess in 2017, " a lot of doubt" means hate and anger. Fascinating. 
 
		
	 
	
	
		Quote:  @StickyBun said:
 
  Not according to them or Carr he is 100% healthy.  And if he wasn't it was for the last game only.  Not the first 4.@twgerber  said:
   
  @StickyBun  said:
   
  @Skodin  said: 
  i disagree. other boards, comments sections in the star tribune etc, there is a lot of teddy doubt, there was a lot of doubt back in 2015 and going into 2016.  I have seen many fans say he’s mediocre, or a game manager at best, especially in comparison to Carr 
That's because Carr is a franchise QB. Carr threw for 81 TDs and only 31 INTs his first 3 years. Teddy can't touch those numbers. Bridgewater might be mediocre or he could be better than that. How does that translate to hate? Its just the current facts.  
And Carr/Oakland is not playing well right now. Or not nearly as well as I would have expected this year.   Carr 2-3 6 turnovers with QBR 38.6.  That's bad even if you dont' like QBR.    He's just not playing well so far this year.   
He's dealing with a back injury.  
		
	 
	
	
		Quote:  @twgerber said:
 
  LOL, ok. So can we talk the 3 years prior to the 2017 season then? Jesus, I swear. If some of you can't even admit that Derek Carr is a better QB than Teddy, than what the hell is the use of discussion?@StickyBun  said:
   
  @twgerber  said:
   
  @StickyBun  said:
   
  @Skodin  said: 
  i disagree. other boards, comments sections in the star tribune etc, there is a lot of teddy doubt, there was a lot of doubt back in 2015 and going into 2016.  I have seen many fans say he’s mediocre, or a game manager at best, especially in comparison to Carr 
That's because Carr is a franchise QB. Carr threw for 81 TDs and only 31 INTs his first 3 years. Teddy can't touch those numbers. Bridgewater might be mediocre or he could be better than that. How does that translate to hate? Its just the current facts.  
And Carr/Oakland is not playing well right now. Or not nearly as well as I would have expected this year.   Carr 2-3 6 turnovers with QBR 38.6.  That's bad even if you dont' like QBR.    He's just not playing well so far this year.   
He's dealing with a back injury.  
Not according to them or Carr he is 100% healthy.  And if he wasn't it was for the last game only.  Not the first 4.  
		
	 
	
	
		Quote:  @StickyBun said:
 
  Did I say that?    Carr had a far better 3rd year obviously and was in the running for MVP.@twgerber  said:
   
  @StickyBun  said:
   
  @twgerber  said:
   
  @StickyBun  said:
   
  @Skodin  said: 
  i disagree. other boards, comments sections in the star tribune etc, there is a lot of teddy doubt, there was a lot of doubt back in 2015 and going into 2016.  I have seen many fans say he’s mediocre, or a game manager at best, especially in comparison to Carr 
That's because Carr is a franchise QB. Carr threw for 81 TDs and only 31 INTs his first 3 years. Teddy can't touch those numbers. Bridgewater might be mediocre or he could be better than that. How does that translate to hate? Its just the current facts.  
And Carr/Oakland is not playing well right now. Or not nearly as well as I would have expected this year.   Carr 2-3 6 turnovers with QBR 38.6.  That's bad even if you dont' like QBR.    He's just not playing well so far this year.   
He's dealing with a back injury.  
Not according to them or Carr he is 100% healthy.  And if he wasn't it was for the last game only.  Not the first 4.  
LOL, ok. So can we talk the 3 years prior to the 2017 season then? Jesus, I swear. If some of you can't even admit that Derek Carr is a better QB than Teddy, than what the hell is the use of discussion?  
 
 
 
		
	 
	
	
		Quote:  @twgerber said:
 
  So....what is your point then?@StickyBun  said:
   
  @twgerber  said:
   
  @StickyBun  said:
   
  @twgerber  said:
   
  @StickyBun  said:
   
  @Skodin  said: 
  i disagree. other boards, comments sections in the star tribune etc, there is a lot of teddy doubt, there was a lot of doubt back in 2015 and going into 2016.  I have seen many fans say he’s mediocre, or a game manager at best, especially in comparison to Carr 
That's because Carr is a franchise QB. Carr threw for 81 TDs and only 31 INTs his first 3 years. Teddy can't touch those numbers. Bridgewater might be mediocre or he could be better than that. How does that translate to hate? Its just the current facts.  
And Carr/Oakland is not playing well right now. Or not nearly as well as I would have expected this year.   Carr 2-3 6 turnovers with QBR 38.6.  That's bad even if you dont' like QBR.    He's just not playing well so far this year.   
He's dealing with a back injury.  
Not according to them or Carr he is 100% healthy.  And if he wasn't it was for the last game only.  Not the first 4.  
LOL, ok. So can we talk the 3 years prior to the 2017 season then? Jesus, I swear. If some of you can't even admit that Derek Carr is a better QB than Teddy, than what the hell is the use of discussion?  
Did I say that?    Carr had a far better 3rd year obviously and was in the running for MVP.  
 
		
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