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Why is Teddy so polarizing? I’d like a realistic conversation about #5
#11
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@Skodin said:
i disagree. other boards, comments sections in the star tribune etc, there is a lot of teddy doubt, there was a lot of doubt back in 2015 and going into 2016.  I have seen many fans say he’s mediocre, or a game manager at best, especially in comparison to Carr
That's because Carr is a franchise QB. Carr threw for 81 TDs and only 31 INTs his first 3 years. Teddy can't touch those numbers. Bridgewater might be mediocre or he could be better than that. How does that translate to hate? Its just the current facts. 
And Carr/Oakland is not playing well right now. Or not nearly as well as I would have expected this year.   Carr 2-3 6 turnovers with QBR 38.6.  That's bad even if you dont' like QBR.    He's just not playing well so far this year.  
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#12
Quote: @twgerber said:
@StickyBun said:
@Skodin said:
i disagree. other boards, comments sections in the star tribune etc, there is a lot of teddy doubt, there was a lot of doubt back in 2015 and going into 2016.  I have seen many fans say he’s mediocre, or a game manager at best, especially in comparison to Carr
That's because Carr is a franchise QB. Carr threw for 81 TDs and only 31 INTs his first 3 years. Teddy can't touch those numbers. Bridgewater might be mediocre or he could be better than that. How does that translate to hate? Its just the current facts. 
And Carr/Oakland is not playing well right now. Or not nearly as well as I would have expected this year.   Carr 2-3 6 turnovers with QBR 38.6.  That's bad even if you dont' like QBR.    He's just not playing well so far this year.  
He's dealing with a back injury. 
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#13
Simply put I don't think he's a very good QB. Of course I don't think he is really a bad Qb either. Is that hate? I don't think so. He just hasn't done a whole lot to impress me. He is a great guy though. Hope his career takes off like a rocket. 
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#14
There are some that think you have to be Team Teddy or Team Sam. That's stupid. I am Team Minnesota. But anyone that would hate Teddy is an idiot. What's not to like about him? Seriously? He is a good guy. He is doing all the right things. He never wanted pity. He just keeps grinding. How can you not root for a guy like that? 
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#15
Quote: @twgerber said:
@StickyBun said:
@Skodin said:
i disagree. other boards, comments sections in the star tribune etc, there is a lot of teddy doubt, there was a lot of doubt back in 2015 and going into 2016.  I have seen many fans say he’s mediocre, or a game manager at best, especially in comparison to Carr
That's because Carr is a franchise QB. Carr threw for 81 TDs and only 31 INTs his first 3 years. Teddy can't touch those numbers. Bridgewater might be mediocre or he could be better than that. How does that translate to hate? Its just the current facts. 
And Carr/Oakland is not playing well right now. Or not nearly as well as I would have expected this year.   Carr 2-3 6 turnovers with QBR 38.6.  That's bad even if you dont' like QBR.    He's just not playing well so far this year.  
Haven't watched them, but is it Carr or the rest of the offense.  Without diving into politics, I know the Raiders have dealt with some division regarding the anthem.  A team divided and distracted isn't going to play very well.
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#16
So I guess in 2017, " a lot of doubt" means hate and anger. Fascinating.
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#17
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@twgerber said:
@StickyBun said:
@Skodin said:
i disagree. other boards, comments sections in the star tribune etc, there is a lot of teddy doubt, there was a lot of doubt back in 2015 and going into 2016.  I have seen many fans say he’s mediocre, or a game manager at best, especially in comparison to Carr
That's because Carr is a franchise QB. Carr threw for 81 TDs and only 31 INTs his first 3 years. Teddy can't touch those numbers. Bridgewater might be mediocre or he could be better than that. How does that translate to hate? Its just the current facts. 
And Carr/Oakland is not playing well right now. Or not nearly as well as I would have expected this year.   Carr 2-3 6 turnovers with QBR 38.6.  That's bad even if you dont' like QBR.    He's just not playing well so far this year.  
He's dealing with a back injury. 
Not according to them or Carr he is 100% healthy.  And if he wasn't it was for the last game only.  Not the first 4. 
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#18
Quote: @twgerber said:
@StickyBun said:
@twgerber said:
@StickyBun said:
@Skodin said:
i disagree. other boards, comments sections in the star tribune etc, there is a lot of teddy doubt, there was a lot of doubt back in 2015 and going into 2016.  I have seen many fans say he’s mediocre, or a game manager at best, especially in comparison to Carr
That's because Carr is a franchise QB. Carr threw for 81 TDs and only 31 INTs his first 3 years. Teddy can't touch those numbers. Bridgewater might be mediocre or he could be better than that. How does that translate to hate? Its just the current facts. 
And Carr/Oakland is not playing well right now. Or not nearly as well as I would have expected this year.   Carr 2-3 6 turnovers with QBR 38.6.  That's bad even if you dont' like QBR.    He's just not playing well so far this year.  
He's dealing with a back injury. 
Not according to them or Carr he is 100% healthy.  And if he wasn't it was for the last game only.  Not the first 4. 
LOL, ok. So can we talk the 3 years prior to the 2017 season then? Jesus, I swear. If some of you can't even admit that Derek Carr is a better QB than Teddy, than what the hell is the use of discussion? 
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#19
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@twgerber said:
@StickyBun said:
@twgerber said:
@StickyBun said:
@Skodin said:
i disagree. other boards, comments sections in the star tribune etc, there is a lot of teddy doubt, there was a lot of doubt back in 2015 and going into 2016.  I have seen many fans say he’s mediocre, or a game manager at best, especially in comparison to Carr
That's because Carr is a franchise QB. Carr threw for 81 TDs and only 31 INTs his first 3 years. Teddy can't touch those numbers. Bridgewater might be mediocre or he could be better than that. How does that translate to hate? Its just the current facts. 
And Carr/Oakland is not playing well right now. Or not nearly as well as I would have expected this year.   Carr 2-3 6 turnovers with QBR 38.6.  That's bad even if you dont' like QBR.    He's just not playing well so far this year.  
He's dealing with a back injury. 
Not according to them or Carr he is 100% healthy.  And if he wasn't it was for the last game only.  Not the first 4. 
LOL, ok. So can we talk the 3 years prior to the 2017 season then? Jesus, I swear. If some of you can't even admit that Derek Carr is a better QB than Teddy, than what the hell is the use of discussion? 
Did I say that?    Carr had a far better 3rd year obviously and was in the running for MVP.  


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#20
Quote: @twgerber said:
@StickyBun said:
@twgerber said:
@StickyBun said:
@twgerber said:
@StickyBun said:
@Skodin said:
i disagree. other boards, comments sections in the star tribune etc, there is a lot of teddy doubt, there was a lot of doubt back in 2015 and going into 2016.  I have seen many fans say he’s mediocre, or a game manager at best, especially in comparison to Carr
That's because Carr is a franchise QB. Carr threw for 81 TDs and only 31 INTs his first 3 years. Teddy can't touch those numbers. Bridgewater might be mediocre or he could be better than that. How does that translate to hate? Its just the current facts. 
And Carr/Oakland is not playing well right now. Or not nearly as well as I would have expected this year.   Carr 2-3 6 turnovers with QBR 38.6.  That's bad even if you dont' like QBR.    He's just not playing well so far this year.  
He's dealing with a back injury. 
Not according to them or Carr he is 100% healthy.  And if he wasn't it was for the last game only.  Not the first 4. 
LOL, ok. So can we talk the 3 years prior to the 2017 season then? Jesus, I swear. If some of you can't even admit that Derek Carr is a better QB than Teddy, than what the hell is the use of discussion? 
Did I say that?    Carr had a far better 3rd year obviously and was in the running for MVP.  


So....what is your point then?
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