Seifert: Vikings open to trading Greenard

[supafreak84]

Greenard getting hurt probably killed the chances of getting anything 30-45 range.

I don't think so. The injury was a shoulder and not considered lingering. He's 28, and had two seasons of at least 12 sacks prior to last season. I think teams are waiting to see what happens with Maxx Crosby, but once that is settled, the Greenard market could and should heat up. There are a handful of playoff teams last year in desperate need of pass rush help so there will be a market

[greediron]

Yeah, I'd agree if the team could get a pick from #30 to #45 overall. Dallas Turner's best spot is exactly where and what Greenard plays. But that's probably not the comp teams are willing to give.

Yeah, I am all for keeping him unless the return is really good.

Pete thinks Greenard is our best defender.  He isn't far off.  Good character, good quiet leader, hustles, makes plays.  

https://www.vikings.com/video/film-room-...025-season

[JimmyinSD]

Season Age Team Lg Pos G GS Int Yds IntTD Lng PD FF Fmb FR Yds FRTD Sk Comb Solo Ast TFL QBHits
2024 21 MIN NFL OLB 16 0 1 4 0 4 1 0 0 0 0 0 3.0 20 12 8 3 5
2025 22 MIN NFL OLB 17 10 0 0 0 0 3 4 0 0 0 0 8.0 66 29 37 11 15



Season Age Team Lg Pos G GS Int Yds IntTD Lng PD FF Fmb FR Yds FRTD Sk Comb Solo Ast TFL QBHits
2024 27 MIN NFL ROLB 17 17 0 0 0 0 3 4 0 0 0 0 12.0 59 41 18 18 22
2025 28 MIN NFL OLB 12 10 0 0 0 0 3 1 0 0 0 0 3.0 38 19 19 10 12


Turner is growing up and should continue to improve, but he isnt a replacement for JG yet IMO and we will likely see that if we go full time Turner. I think that unless we want to add OLB/DE to our needs list, we should hang onto JG unless they are not serious about making a deep run in 26.

EDIT: Sorry, the stats display fine in my reply box.

[medaille]

In the realm of things you can control and things you can't control, losing Greenard, Hargrave and Allen would be losing 3 of your top pass rushers in one fell swoop. Like there would have to be a pretty damn good plan to voluntarily do that to your own defense, you know the one part of the team that carried us to a winning record when our offense was sucking the whole year.

Like a week ago our draft needs were pretty clear, we probably were going to focus on our secondary. If you lose all 3 of those guys, is secondary even on table anymore or is it an emergency to draft DL with our first pick?

[Mattyman]

"more is required"

If the Vikings trade greenard they won't get back what they gave up.

Surest path to mediocrity in the NFL, is losing talent be it trades, cuts or unrestricted free agency.

Don't trade greenard.

[Kentis]

Greenard’s deal has no guaranteed money left, the team is doing due diligence on what’s out there, his deal was/is due to be renegotiated regardless…

[supafreak84]

By retaining Greenard, you are essentially crippling the continued development of Turner who HAS shown he is more than capable of producing in a starting role. You draft guys in the first round for a reason and you want to maximize bang for your buck on a rookie contract. You can't play and pay everybody. We've made a significant investment in Turner and have a chance to add a couple draft picks by trading Greenard on a roster that needs to get younger and is experiencing significant turnover. This shouldn't even be a discussion, play Turner and trade Greenard to the highest bidder.

[purplefaithful]

By retaining Greenard, you are essentially crippling the continued development of Turner who HAS shown he is more than capable of producing in a starting role. You draft guys in the first round for a reason and you want to maximize bang for your buck on a rookie contract. You can't play and pay everybody. We've made a significant investment in Turner and have a chance to add a couple draft picks by trading Greenard on a roster that needs to get younger and is experiencing significant turnover. This shouldn't even be a discussion, play Turner and trade Greenard to the highest bidder.

Depends on compensation...

3rd or 4th rd pick???

[pattersaur]

Depends on compensation...

3rd or 4th rd pick???

Yep. I'm not sure we have the guy or guys at the wheel required to get max value so my guess no move is made.

[medaille]

By retaining Greenard, you are essentially crippling the continued development of Turner who HAS shown he is more than capable of producing in a starting role. You draft guys in the first round for a reason and you want to maximize bang for your buck on a rookie contract. You can't play and pay everybody. We've made a significant investment in Turner and have a chance to add a couple draft picks by trading Greenard on a roster that needs to get younger and is experiencing significant turnover. This shouldn't even be a discussion, play Turner and trade Greenard to the highest bidder.

The goal is to put the best team on the field.  Depth is important.  You don't just get rid of your best players to get younger.

Obviously, we don't know what the plan is to add players, but it sure feels like we're going to be non-participants in free agency, It'll put a lot of pressure on rookies to contribute immediately.

In my mind, it's better to get younger through the draft first and then get rid of the older players as the young players are ready.