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Seifert: Vikings open to trading Greenard
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(Yesterday, 03:33 PM)JR44 Wrote: Because of all the QB issues last year, one aspect that went under the radar was the huge difference in the defense when either Van Ginkel or Greenard were out.  Turner is not close the level of either, he had looked so badly that the bar really dropped for him so anything he did remotely positive really stood out.  Do not think he is nearly ready to take over.

To Turners defense, he is only 23 and led the team in sacks by year 2. 

So I wouldn't fault the Vikings for putting him in the starting line-up if that happens. He's doing exactly what they hoped most likely. 

That said, I still like the Turner/Gink/Greenard rotation best

Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger! 
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I think it’s a year early for this conversation to really come into fruition.

Greenard isn’t really coming off the year where he’s forcing our hand or really earned a pay bump.
Turner isn’t really coming off a year, where you feel rock solid in his ability as he’s still near the bottom in terms of sacks
I think there’s a lot of pressure to win this year or the coaching staff might get replaced or at least be under severe scrutiny. I can’t imagine that we really want to enter the season with only two edges, one CB and a bunch of hope for every other position on defense. Like if we’re going into the 2027 offseason after drafting a DT and a LB who both balled out like the one mock draft had for us, letting Greenard go somewhere to get paid more feels much more approachable.

I’d much rather have excellent depth than save a few bucks and get an upper 3rd round pick. If someone offered a first (around 20?) or something, I’d reconsider, but I consider that unlikely.
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This is more about Minnesota needing top compensation than actually looking for a trade. They aren't going to give him away. My money says he'll be a Viking this season.
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I would not trade Greenard this year. He is our best defensive player and has a cheap deal. Of course other teams want him.
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(Today, 05:31 AM)StickierBuns Wrote: This is more about Minnesota needing top compensation than actually looking for a trade. They aren't going to give him away. My money says he'll be a Viking this season.

I think it's more about Greenard wanting more money than it is us wanting to trade him.

I think if some team offered us a first and a third, he'd be out of here, but if it's a day 2 pick as reported, I doubt that happens.

I think the most likely thing is that we end up paying him more this money this year, get one more year out of him, and we'll promise him an out or a raise next year.
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(Yesterday, 03:33 PM)JR44 Wrote: Because of all the QB issues last year, one aspect that went under the radar was the huge difference in the defense when either Van Ginkel or Greenard were out.  Turner is not close the level of either, he had looked so badly that the bar really dropped for him so anything he did remotely positive really stood out.  Do not think he is nearly ready to take over.

I think Turner did fine in Greenards role, but not in Ginks.  Van Ginkel is such a diverse tool for Flores.  So I might be okay with moving Greenard if the price is right.
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