Davis Mills..thoughts ?

[Vanguard83]

What are people's thoughts on Davis Mills?
Wouldn't take much IMO. 27, strong build, five years in the league, 63% completion percentage.

All perspective appreciated, but I'd like this option over most others, given what it would take for Mac Jones, or trotting Kyler out there

What would it take?

[StickierBuns]

I think he'd be a heck of a QB2, but a very low-end, bottom feeding QB1. Reading the Jets may be interested in trading for him. It might take a smidge more than you think as Houston likes him a bunch as the backup to Stroud.

[dadevike]

I'm fine with Mills because I think we still need to give JJM a real shot to be our franchise QB. If he shits the bed then Mills would be an adequate backup - certainly better than Brosmer. But the key question is: what do we have to give up to get him?

[purplefaithful]

No...

We gotta set the bar higher for that QB room.

The Vikings need to give JJM a chance in April through TC. But they also need to hedge their bets. McCarthy just isnt a starting NFL QB yet.

Not until he proves he is.

[MaroonBells]

No...

We gotta set the bar higher for that QB room.

The Vikings need to give JJM a chance in April through TC. But they also need to hedge their bets. McCarthy just isnt a starting NFL QB yet.

Not until he proves he is.

I'm with you. I think our aim should be a bit higher than Davis Mills. I love the quote from The Martian. "In the face of overwhelming odds, I'm gonna have to science the shit out of this."  And so are the Vikings.

[Vanguard83]

Appreciate the opinions.

I'm not so much against JJM's skillset (even with the over the middle passing) What I'm MOST worried about is his AVAILABILITY.
Not sure the guy can take a repeated shots & get back up.

[StickierBuns]

No...

We gotta set the bar higher for that QB room.

The Vikings need to give JJM a chance in April through TC. But they also need to hedge their bets. McCarthy just isnt a starting NFL QB yet.

Not until he proves he is.

Respect your opinion, but I don't think big time competition is coming for JJ. I mean, the die was set the day he was drafted. Only way he can prove he can play well is to play well, if you catch my drift. And its all rumors until we see who they bring in but we all gave Dianna Russini a shitload of crap over Rodgers last year but she was right. Her latest is that Minnesota is all in on McCarthy's development and IMO that's the right tact. We'll see!

I mean the people that bring up the Jordan Love situation where he sat was because he was behind Aaron Rodgers: with Rodgers you can go to the Superbowl any year. You think that happens starting Kirk Cousins? And Aaron Rodgers sat behind Brett Favre. Its an anomaly. I'll wager we never see that happen again. There's no way you start JJM one year and then have him 'incubate' on the bench the next year or two. Won't happen. If KOC brings in the wink-wink competition then you'll have your answer on how he feels and that he's staking his career on McCarthy....and it won't be the resident McCarthy fanboy (me) saying it.

Secondarily from Tom Pelissero:

"Who that ultimately ends up being is still anyone's guess, but in a conversation with Vikings.com's Tatum Everett on Wednesday, NFL Media's Tom Pelissero shared what path Minnesota is probably going to take this offseason when it comes to finding another quarterback.

"They've been upfront about the fact that they want to find somebody to come in and be able to compete with J.J. McCarthy, and they think that the competitive environment will bring out the best in JJ.

I think the important thing to understand with the quarterbacks is this is a quarterback movement offseason where a lot of it's going to be defined by the guys who become available.

I can't think of another offseason in the NFL where you have a handful of longtime starters who quite possibly are going to be released [like] Kirk Cousins, Tua Tagovailoa, Kyler Murray, Geno Smith, potentially Justin Fields, that one might be something that doesn't happen for a little bit here till closer to the draft, but that's a bunch of guys who have started a whole bunch.

...What the Vikings have to figure out is what is the sensible addition to that room, because they are not in any way giving up on J.J. McCarthy.

He hasn't had the time. Injuries have been a driving force of why he's not been on the field. It's hard to improve at the things you need to improve at, like all young quarterbacks, if you're not out there.

If you go to trade, let's say hypothetically, a second-round pick for Mac Jones, it's pretty clear Mac Jones is your starting quarterback.

So you've got to find that balance between getting someone in who's really going to push him and not expending a ton of resources to do it.

So, one of those quarterbacks that's got guaranteed money that the Vikings could pay the minimum, if and when he's released, and they would probably have dibs on those guys because everyone wants to play quarterback in Minnesota, that, if I had to guess, would be the direction that I would think it would end up going."  - Tom P.

It just makes too much sense as the best path forward IMO. What the results end up being, I don't know, but its the best decision.

[PurplePorsche]

The crime is that we drafted Kellen Mond one pick before Mills in the draft. Didn’t understand it at the time, history proved out that blunder.

[MaroonBells]

The crime is that we drafted Kellen Mond one pick before Mills in the draft. Didn’t understand it at the time, history proved out that blunder.

Yep, true. Mond is out of the league and Mills is still playing. Sill, we're a long way from Davis Mills being some kind of revelation. He's won no more playoff games than Kellen Mond.

[purplefaithful]

Respect your opinion, but I don't think big time competition is coming for JJ. I mean, the die was set the day he was drafted. Only way he can prove he can play well is to play well, if you catch my drift. And its all rumors until we see who they bring in but we all gave Dianna Russini a shitload of crap over Rodgers last year but she was right. Her latest is that Minnesota is all in on McCarthy's development and IMO that's the right tact. We'll see!

I mean the people that bring up the Jordan Love situation where he sat was because he was behind Aaron Rodgers: with Rodgers you can go to the Superbowl any year. You think that happens starting Kirk Cousins? And Aaron Rodgers sat behind Brett Favre. Its an anomaly. I'll wager we never see that happen again. There's no way you start JJM one year and then have him 'incubate' on the bench the next year or two. Won't happen. If KOC brings in the wink-wink competition then you'll have your answer on how he feels and that he's staking his career on McCarthy....and it won't be the resident McCarthy fanboy (me) saying it.

Secondarily from Tom Pelissero:

"Who that ultimately ends up being is still anyone's guess, but in a conversation with Vikings.com's Tatum Everett on Wednesday, NFL Media's Tom Pelissero shared what path Minnesota is probably going to take this offseason when it comes to finding another quarterback.

"They've been upfront about the fact that they want to find somebody to come in and be able to compete with J.J. McCarthy, and they think that the competitive environment will bring out the best in JJ.

I think the important thing to understand with the quarterbacks is this is a quarterback movement offseason where a lot of it's going to be defined by the guys who become available.

I can't think of another offseason in the NFL where you have a handful of longtime starters who quite possibly are going to be released [like] Kirk Cousins, Tua Tagovailoa, Kyler Murray, Geno Smith, potentially Justin Fields, that one might be something that doesn't happen for a little bit here till closer to the draft, but that's a bunch of guys who have started a whole bunch.

...What the Vikings have to figure out is what is the sensible addition to that room, because they are not in any way giving up on J.J. McCarthy.

He hasn't had the time. Injuries have been a driving force of why he's not been on the field. It's hard to improve at the things you need to improve at, like all young quarterbacks, if you're not out there.

If you go to trade, let's say hypothetically, a second-round pick for Mac Jones, it's pretty clear Mac Jones is your starting quarterback.

So you've got to find that balance between getting someone in who's really going to push him and not expending a ton of resources to do it.

So, one of those quarterbacks that's got guaranteed money that the Vikings could pay the minimum, if and when he's released, and they would probably have dibs on those guys because everyone wants to play quarterback in Minnesota, that, if I had to guess, would be the direction that I would think it would end up going."  - Tom P.

It just makes too much sense as the best path forward IMO. What the results end up being, I don't know, but its the best decision.

The org and JJM have lost my trust tbh:

I hope we got our guy for the next 10 years in McCarthy, but I'm not sure anymore.
 - lack of durability & lack of accuracy scare the hell out of me
 - his injuries have derailed the Vikings 2 years running now

Not sure I trust the Vikings to thread the QB needle, especially when they didn't in 25 and are in this weird org interim situation
- I still dont understand the Wilfs timing on kicking KAM to the curb???
- I have no idea which way this org will go for that QB room - but they gotta do much better this off-season.