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I am certain this won't be popular with the natives, but I think talking about bringing in another QB is a complete waste and a very Vikings thing to do.
Definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting the same results.
We are not winning a Super Bowl with Kirk Cousins, Kyler Murray, Derek Carr, Malik Willis and whatever other reject we can bring in here to "backup/compete" with McCarthy. So all we are really doing is prolonging the pain. A somewhat competent backup will get us right back to the 15-20 draft range, but not the Super Bowl. So why are we even entertaining this scenario? Is it because the Wilf's are requiring it? It feels like the over reaction of I don't know, people worried about their jobs?
To me the correct scenario is this. If you trade anything, acquire assets and picks for 2027. Do NOT add a QB. Run JJ back out there, if he fails, gets hurt, sucks whatever, run Brosmer out there. Hit bottom and have assets and the draft capital to draft a QB in 2027 (much better class). On top of that you can also have the capital to reset the roster if necessary. If you are going to trade Grennard and Hockensen and anyone else, I would primarily focus on 2027 draft picks. Maybe even somehow finagle a 2nd 1st rounder if possible.
The upside to this that if JJ competes, is competent or better and can stay healthy, bam, use that draft capital on a great draft coming up. And if he doesn't, well you have the ability to reset without some crappy half-assed QB on the roster behind JJ and a 18th overall pick.
Just my 10 cents.
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Questions at QB and RB , but this is still a pretty good roster with a near elite D.
Cant have a bare-bones QB room again. That would be insane imo - fireable offense.
Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger!
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If the Vikings existed only for my own personal amusement, I might agree with you. Problem is, there are jobs on the line. There are elite players on this team whose patience has an expiration date.
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I agree.
The toll of bad drafts is gonna catch up with this roster in 2026. Vikings need to plan accordingly.
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(Yesterday, 11:33 AM)Vikesrock Wrote: So why are we even entertaining this scenario?
KOC job preservation. Vet heavy roster probably doesn't want to spend another year doing JJM FAFO. Wilfs mainly think about short term feels, not long term strategy.
I would play JJM another year on the chance he turns into something, even though history is not really on his side at this point. But I have no say and nothing at stake unlike KOC et al.
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Its going to be what its going to be. Highly interested to see who the QB room 'upgrade' will be and what it might mean, if anything at all, for QB1.
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I agree with OP the team's Plan A should still be JJ McCarthy. I think there's a better than 50/50 chance he can take us to the playoffs next season... if he can stay on the field.
I disagree that if McCarthy doesn't pan out, the team should tank. While I wouldn't be mad at this approach and I greatly prefer it to letting someone like Rodgers start 17 games for us, I still think they need to try and upgrade the backup QB position over last year. Running it back with Brosmer as QB2 is a recipe for getting everyone fired and "losing the team", even moreso if the locker room has doubts about JJ McCarthy.
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Internet opinion here. The Vikings have fumbled the QB position so bad it should be a personal foul roughing the fans. Getting a bandaid QB is like rebranding the phrase competitive rebuild with Cracker Barrel rebranding results. The Vikings screwed the pooch so bad on the QB situation Packer fans have hope with animals again.
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Like I said a few weeks ago, every fan of this organization wants McCarthy to be the starter for better or for worse because we want the questions to be emphatically answered. Too small a sample size and we want to know if he can stay healthy for a full season. Bringing in a one year veteran rental to start (of which the names have bern discussed), does nothing in answering those questions or getting this team to a Super Bowl, so what's the point, right? Unfortunately we have coaches on short leashes and instead of making the best long term decision at quarterback, they are going to do what's best for them to keep their jobs. That's why I say, firing Kwesi when we did and not immediately bringing in a new GM to run the operation with a long term view, is just the latest in a long line of poor decisions by ownership. We are all just unfortunately along for the ride while the Wilfs fumble and bumble their way through another offseason
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(6 hours ago)supafreak84 Wrote: Like I said a few weeks ago, every fan of this organization wants McCarthy to be the starter for better or for worse because we want the questions to be emphatically answered. Too small a sample size and we want to know if he can stay healthy for a full season. Bringing in a one year veteran rental to start (of which the names have bern discussed), does nothing in answering those questions or getting this team to a Super Bowl, so what's the point, right? Unfortunately we have coaches on short leashes and instead of making the best long term decision at quarterback, they are going to do what's best for them to keep their jobs. That's why I say, firing Kwesi when we did and not immediately bringing in a new GM to run the operation with a long term view, is just the latest in a long line of poor decisions by ownership. We are all just unfortunately along for the ride while the Wilfs fumble and bumble their way through another offseason
If the Wilf's would have decided Kwesi's fate right after the season they could have gotten a new GM on board in time for free agency instead they decided to go with familiarity and give the temporary title to Brzezinski. They would still have time to hire a GM in time for the draft but no lets just see how the new triangle works out. If they hire Brzezinski to be full time GM wonder who takes over as the cap guy, he would not have time for both jobs, oh I know let KOC have that power also.
In another head scratcher I read that Josh McCown got a new title added to his name. He is now the passing game coordinator and quarterback coach. Things can only go up from here.
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