Hmmm...What if?

[purplefaithful]

The Vikings traded JJM to Chargers for Herbert?

The thought crossed my mind end of their game yesterday. Herbert has played 6 seasons now. 

I can see +/- to it for both sides

Could it be one of those rare Goff for Stafford trades that worked for both franchises?

[Montana Tom]

I don't think so.
He is two years into this current massive five-year contract.

Justin Herbert signed a 5-year, $262.5 million contract with the Los Angeles Chargers, which includes:
$16.1 million in a signing bonus.

$218.7 million guaranteed, with $133.7 million fully guaranteed and $193.7 million in injury guarantees.
An average annual salary of $52.5 million, making him the highest-paid quarterback in NFL history.

This contract extends through the 2029 season, locking him in as the franchise quarterback for the Chargers.

[StickierBuns]

Never happen. And if it did, you might need to have Harbs checked for dementia. JJM is an unproven commodity that has been very inconsistent in Year 1 of starting. No idea yet if he can be a franchise guy. Justin Herbert has thrown for more yards to start his NFL career than any QB in history outside of Peyton Manning....and Harbaugh LOVES Herbert. He's only 27 years old and extremely talented in passing the football. Athletic. 0.0% chance.

Stay away from sports social media, PF! They have Minnesota trading for everyone, lol.

[MaroonBells]

The Vikings traded JJM to Chargers for Herbert?

The thought crossed my mind end of their game yesterday. Herbert has played 6 seasons now. 

I can see +/- to it for both sides

Could it be one of those rare Goff for Stafford trades that worked for both franchises?

I've never believed this idea that says a coach or a QB or a GM hasn't done X and so they're incapable of X, so sure I'd love it. But the Chargers would be absolute boobs for doing it. I happen to believe JJ is a year or two away from being magnificent. But there's always the chance that more injuries further stunt his development and he never rises above a certain level, and so becomes the next Mac Jones, Mitch Trubisky or Zach Wilson. 

I think the Stafford/Goff trade was significantly different. Stafford requested a trade to a contending team. Also, the Lions wanted to start over at QB with the new Holmes/Campbell regime. It worked out well for both teams. I don't see any of those conditions with the Chargers and Vikings unless for whatever reason Herbert requests a trade.

[Montana Tom]

Here's another viewpoint (quoted from Washington Post this morning):

What to know from the NFL playoffs: Justin Herbert is inferior when it counts

Quarterback Justin Herbert could never get the Los Angeles Chargers' offense going Sunday night. (Charles Krupa/AP)

The opening weekend of the NFL playoffs delivered on the promise of an unpredictable regular season in which contenders barely separated from the field, let alone one another. The margin of victory for the first five playoff games: three, four, three, four and, in the Patriots-Chargers anticlimax, 13. In the first three, the go-ahead score came with 64 seconds or less remaining. It’s a wide-open postseason, in the bracket and in each individual game.

Here is what to know.

Justin Herbert added another playoff disaster
Midway through the fourth quarter Sunday night, Justin Herbert found himself prone on the ground, writhing. If ever an image captured the pain of a player, there it was: a quarterback with the physical capability of anything was powerless and helpless when the stakes were at their highest.

In the New England Patriots’ 16-3 throttling of the Los Angeles Chargers, Herbert suffered another playoff humiliation. In his postseason debut three years ago, Herbert squandered a 27-0 lead in Jacksonville. Last year, Herbert chucked four interceptions in a loss at Houston. Sunday night, the Patriots harassed, punished and confused him. Herbert did not crack 100 passing yards until the fourth quarter, finishing with 159 yards passing to go with 57 yards on 10 rushes.

One of the most physically gifted QBs of his generation, a player capable of carrying his team on his back in the regular season, Herbert is now 0-3 with three absolute stinkers in the postseason. It has not been all his fault. In Jacksonville, his defense capsized. His offensive line faltered last year and Sunday night, when he took six sacks. As New England defensive tackle Milton Williams returned from injury, the Patriots blasted an offensive line missing star tackles Joe Alt and Rashawn Slater.

But Herbert is not without blame. The Chargers may have overachieved thanks to Herbert just to claim the AFC’s seventh seed. But Sunday night, he could not find completions even when they were available. With Jim Harbaugh in charge, there is every reason to think Herbert will get another chance. He will face pressure built up over three atrocious games.

[Zanary]

Here's another viewpoint (quoted from Washington Post this morning):

What to know from the NFL playoffs: Justin Herbert is inferior when it counts

Quarterback Justin Herbert could never get the Los Angeles Chargers' offense going Sunday night. (Charles Krupa/AP)

The opening weekend of the NFL playoffs delivered on the promise of an unpredictable regular season in which contenders barely separated from the field, let alone one another. The margin of victory for the first five playoff games: three, four, three, four and, in the Patriots-Chargers anticlimax, 13. In the first three, the go-ahead score came with 64 seconds or less remaining. It’s a wide-open postseason, in the bracket and in each individual game.

Here is what to know.

Justin Herbert added another playoff disaster
Midway through the fourth quarter Sunday night, Justin Herbert found himself prone on the ground, writhing. If ever an image captured the pain of a player, there it was: a quarterback with the physical capability of anything was powerless and helpless when the stakes were at their highest.

In the New England Patriots’ 16-3 throttling of the Los Angeles Chargers, Herbert suffered another playoff humiliation. In his postseason debut three years ago, Herbert squandered a 27-0 lead in Jacksonville. Last year, Herbert chucked four interceptions in a loss at Houston. Sunday night, the Patriots harassed, punished and confused him. Herbert did not crack 100 passing yards until the fourth quarter, finishing with 159 yards passing to go with 57 yards on 10 rushes.

One of the most physically gifted QBs of his generation, a player capable of carrying his team on his back in the regular season, Herbert is now 0-3 with three absolute stinkers in the postseason. It has not been all his fault. In Jacksonville, his defense capsized. His offensive line faltered last year and Sunday night, when he took six sacks. As New England defensive tackle Milton Williams returned from injury, the Patriots blasted an offensive line missing star tackles Joe Alt and Rashawn Slater.

But Herbert is not without blame. The Chargers may have overachieved thanks to Herbert just to claim the AFC’s seventh seed. But Sunday night, he could not find completions even when they were available. With Jim Harbaugh in charge, there is every reason to think Herbert will get another chance. He will face pressure built up over three atrocious games.

I had similar thoughts about him before we drafted our kid, but he also seems to shrink in bigger games...and, much like Mayfield, he seems to have a hard January ceiling to his seasons.

After overindulging on JJM replays, I don't see that we're really lacking much in comparison...but, as the saying goes, the best ability is availability. JJM needs to convince everyone (starting with himself) that he's capable of starting more than a few weeks in a row.

[StickierBuns]

Here's another viewpoint (quoted from Washington Post this morning):

What to know from the NFL playoffs: Justin Herbert is inferior when it counts

Quarterback Justin Herbert could never get the Los Angeles Chargers' offense going Sunday night. (Charles Krupa/AP)

The opening weekend of the NFL playoffs delivered on the promise of an unpredictable regular season in which contenders barely separated from the field, let alone one another. The margin of victory for the first five playoff games: three, four, three, four and, in the Patriots-Chargers anticlimax, 13. In the first three, the go-ahead score came with 64 seconds or less remaining. It’s a wide-open postseason, in the bracket and in each individual game.

Here is what to know.

Justin Herbert added another playoff disaster
Midway through the fourth quarter Sunday night, Justin Herbert found himself prone on the ground, writhing. If ever an image captured the pain of a player, there it was: a quarterback with the physical capability of anything was powerless and helpless when the stakes were at their highest.

In the New England Patriots’ 16-3 throttling of the Los Angeles Chargers, Herbert suffered another playoff humiliation. In his postseason debut three years ago, Herbert squandered a 27-0 lead in Jacksonville. Last year, Herbert chucked four interceptions in a loss at Houston. Sunday night, the Patriots harassed, punished and confused him. Herbert did not crack 100 passing yards until the fourth quarter, finishing with 159 yards passing to go with 57 yards on 10 rushes.

One of the most physically gifted QBs of his generation, a player capable of carrying his team on his back in the regular season, Herbert is now 0-3 with three absolute stinkers in the postseason. It has not been all his fault. In Jacksonville, his defense capsized. His offensive line faltered last year and Sunday night, when he took six sacks. As New England defensive tackle Milton Williams returned from injury, the Patriots blasted an offensive line missing star tackles Joe Alt and Rashawn Slater.

But Herbert is not without blame. The Chargers may have overachieved thanks to Herbert just to claim the AFC’s seventh seed. But Sunday night, he could not find completions even when they were available. With Jim Harbaugh in charge, there is every reason to think Herbert will get another chance. He will face pressure built up over three atrocious games.

I don't know who they have writing this story for The Post, but its really goofy. 'Get another chance'?? He's their starter and he's going to be their starter. This was never in doubt nor is it in doubt now. Some criticism for playoff ineptitude? Sure. It's very deserved. Anything more or outside that is engagement/clickbait crapola. Just like Joe Burrow being traded, its not going to happen. You don't move on from guys like Herbert, Burrow, Lamar Jackson, etc. Its ridiculous online drivel....but what isn't nowadays?