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Its pretty simple and straight forward IMO....
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(12-31-2025, 01:45 PM)MaroonBells Wrote: I think unless Flores makes him look foolish, Malik Willis is going to get a starting job somewhere and the money that goes with it.

Neither Love nor Willis will play week 18. Willis will look for a starting job next year - maybe Indy.

JJM will play vs GB if he can grip the ball. 

KOC and KAM will bring in "legit" competition for JJM; it won't be just Brosmer and Rypien.
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(Yesterday, 01:41 PM)dadevike Wrote: Neither Love nor Willis will play week 18. Willis will look for a starting job next year - maybe Indy.

JJM will play vs GB if he can grip the ball. 

KOC and KAM will bring in "legit" competition for JJM; it won't be just Brosmer and Rypien.

Don't care who they bring in. JJ will beat anyone out if he is healthy. I have little doubt on that. Brosmer will be selling insurance before too long here. He doesn't even have CFL talent.
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JJM is still younger than Nix and Daniels were when they were drafted. I think he should still be Plan A for 2026. But they need a much better plan B. And a new OL coach. And a possibly a hypnotist to get the receivers to remember how to catch.
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(Yesterday, 08:23 PM)RS_Express Wrote: JJM is still younger than Nix and Daniels were when they were drafted.  I think he should still be Plan A for 2026.  But they need a much better plan B.  And a new OL coach.  And a possibly a hypnotist to get the receivers to remember how to catch.

"Noted just to highlight how young JJ still is even though he last played college football 2 years ago.

JJM was born 1/20/2003. The four of eight QBs in the current college playoffs who are older are:

Carson Beck (Miami) 11/19/2002
Behren Morton (Texas Tech) 1/17/2002
Ty Simpson (Alabama) 12/21/2002
Trinidad Chambliss (Ole Miss) 8/24/2002"
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(12-31-2025, 11:55 AM)MAD GAINZ Wrote: Daniels did as a rookie.  He was hurt more than "Glass JJ McCarthy" this season.  Even when Daniels was healthy, he didn't look as dynamic as his rookie year.  

Williams took a ton of sacks and played pretty inconsistent his rookie year.  He's still taking bad sacks, but he's gotten better as a passer as the season has went on.  Still reminds me of Kyler Murray, we'll see if he has lasting power.

Nix started terribly his rookie year and then played very well in the second half of his rookie year. His stats get padded by a ton of short passes and he has an inconsistent deep ball yet.  Denver's defense is the main reason they have been a playoff team the past two years, helps Nix out too.

Maye and Penix were both up and down their rookie years.  Maye is playing some great football against an easy schedule.  I think Maye has looked the cleanest this year of the 2024 QB class.

We saw a couple great games from JJ McCarthy, a couple bad games, and a few average-ish ones where he showed some clutch factor (both Chicago games).  Jury is still out... but other than the injuries, we saw a great ceiling and enough clutch throws to feel like JJ McCarthy could be next year's version of Drake Maye.  Just needs more reps and to stay on the field.

JJM is statistically the worse out of the 6 QBs taken in 2024 1st round. JJM is near the bottom of all 1st round qbs every drafted in their first 9 games. JJM is injured more then a grocery store banana. I guess I'm see things totally different cuz JJM is not passing the eye test or facts like stats. I know its internet fodder but why is there multiple articles regarding Burrow, Lamar, Murry coming to the Vikes. Or they need a Vet next year and have open competition. I get it. We all want to be hopeful.. I guess I'm to cynical this go round
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...another thing to keep in mind: I believe I read the Vikings had 18 different configurations of offensive linemen playing so far this year? The "Maul of America" started what, 1 game together? Did they even finish that game? Grossness.
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(10 hours ago)StickierBuns Wrote: ...another thing to keep in mind: I believe I read the Vikings had 18 different configurations of offensive linemen playing so far this year? The "Maul of America" started what, 1 game together? Did they even finish that game? Grossness.

If you look at the sack/hit numbers vs how long the QB holds the ball i am betting you find a stronger correlation there than you will comparing them to a rotating OL.  JJM needed to get the ball out quicker and when he started to do that he got hit less.  The OL excuse only goes so far.

I am not arguing for Brosmer over JJM,   they aren't the same raw skill level, but its funny how so many shit talk Brosmer,  ( not you sticky) but then make excuses left and right for JJM,  when they play under the same set of circumstances,   except  JJM has gotten significantly more starter reps and been in the system a whole year more.

All that said,  I want JJM to start and to tear the Packers D a new asshole,  I would love to see panic from the cheese heads as they know they didnt rest that many key players.
Why isn't Chuck Foreman in the Hall of Fame?
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#28
Unfortunately, I think K’aaron is coming to town for one last go.
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(8 hours ago)AGRforever Wrote: Unfortunately, I think K’aaron is coming to town for one last go.

2025 would have been the year for that...

Hindsight clarity is great isnt it? I would have pushed back hard against Rogers here at the time.

Now I think JJM would have benefitted from watching a HOF guy for 1 year. JJM was much greener than I imagined.
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(6 hours ago)purplefaithful Wrote: 2025 would have been the year for that...

Hindsight clarity is great isnt it? I would have pushed back hard against Rogers here at the time.

Now I think JJM would have benefitted from watching a HOF guy for 1 year. JJM was much greener than I imagined.

I'd still push back against A-aron, because there's nothing in the reports of his personality that make me want him here. JJM couldn't learn all that much from a proven diva that skips most offseason work with his teams.

Whomever they bring in, the position will be as much about cost as about capability. They're not going to try for any of the $50m+ QBs, when the whole concept was to develop a young and CHEAPER QB in the first place. I actually am among those that would love to have Kirko back after a couple seasons of forced humility, but only if he gave a huge discount. Maybe he finally feels like he "won" after Washington played games with him all those years back. In any case, he stayed with us despite the IOL getting him mauled week after week, a head coach that was frankly sh*tty to him (for the first few years) and chunks of the fan base acting like he's the only paid QB in NFL history.

But...I don't see that happening. Atlanta likely needs him more in '26 than in '24, with Penix on the mend.

As pointed out above, Daniels, Penix, Mahomes, Jones, and more all VERY hurt, so maybe JJM can be cut a bit of slack. His luck has been crap, his timing of fatherhood was...not brilliant, but he's also 22. If he continues to show progress on Sunday-including balls that are catchable, not just accurate-I don't think there'll be any doubt as to his status this year.
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