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Yesterday, 05:29 AM
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Just let the kid throw the f-cking football. Getting out of his head with the throwing mechanics and this is what you get. Let the incremental growth come with accuracy organically. He's playing confidently and the road never scared him anyway. He's a gamer, let those attributes out. There are those chunks plays that O'Connell loves so much. Much to learn and get better at for JJM but now you can SEE it. Finally. I'm sure a few fans will move the goalposts again for him, but here he comes....one week at a time.
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Tonight marks the third time the @Vikings ' J.J. McCarthy has thrown multiple TD passes while also rushing for a TD in the same game.
No one else in NFL history has done that 3 times within the first 8 games of his career.
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I agree that for now, they need to let him be him, but as much as it pains me to say this, i agree with Collinswortgh too, they have to correct that throwing motion as it puts him in a very bad position for a lower body injury as well as makes accuracy harder to achieve on certain throws and is to hard to maintain as he ages.
At this point its soemthing to really work on in the offseason, and then try and maintain once we get into next year.
Why isn't Chuck Foreman in the Hall of Fame?
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Yesterday, 07:15 AM
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(Yesterday, 07:01 AM)JimmyinSD Wrote: At this point its soemthing to really work on in the offseason, and then try and maintain once we get into next year.
Its really just this ^....and I'm sure he will.
But its never going to be perfect. If we can all agree on that, it'll be just a lot more logical and common sense oriented. I could probably put 10 minutes of video yesterday alone with 85% of the NFL QBs not having perfect throwing mechanics situationally...I watch the Redzone Channel, I see it every Sunday. I think we've all seen Jordan Love throw these deep, off his back foot fadeaway throws that are very less than optimal and many times less than accurate. Is LeFleur getting himself worked up over it? Nope. Its just part of Love's makeup. And don't get me started on Caleb William's mechanics.
As I mentioned: JJ has plenty of things to work on. But JJ has the hallmarks of a big play performer who doesn't care if its at home or away. Keep stackin'.
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Yesterday, 07:20 AM
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The whole mechanics thing is a result of not being on the field for a whole year and some. I comment KOC and team trying to fix it while being competitive in season.
It ended up being too much and I am glad they realized it and course corrected. I am guessing this is what was simplified.
It seems the plan now is just getting him experience, confidence and game reps and deal with the mechanics later.
JJ has what many QBs lack: processing speed, grit, clutch and moxie. Add these to his raw physical traits and we have something to be excited about especially when reminded he is only 22.
The season is sure lost but I think the learnings here set us up for the future.
Very good game yesterday all around. That defense came to play. Made Dak look ordinary and he was outplayed by JJ.
I really wished Jefferson had a TD. I really appreciate and commend KOC and JJ trying to get him on the board despite all the attention he gets (TD that was called back and ball that went through Jefferson’s hands in end zone) and not adding extra pressure on JJ to pass to Jefferson and just let him go through his progression. It’s a fine balance they have to walk. Oh well…
Lastly, where are those who were beating up KOC and co when it was reported that they thought McCarthy’s footwork and mechanics was not where they wanted them to be? I guess now that Chris said it, it’s OK.
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Yesterday, 07:27 AM
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(Yesterday, 07:20 AM)mblack Wrote: On the other hand, where are those who were beating up KOC and co when it was reported that they thought McCarthy’s footwork and mechanics was not where they wanted them to be? I guess now that Chris said it, it’s OK.
Not sure anyone was beating up KOC over this observation, but he just needed to let it go when it become a major disruptor to JJ's progress. The only reason Cris Collinsworth mentioned it is he was fed this by the SNF team as a narrative. Anyone else ever see a broadcast focus on a QB's mechanics AFTER he throws TDs and long completions? Its goofy. But what else is new on these broadcasts?
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(Yesterday, 05:29 AM)StickierBuns Wrote: Just let the kid throw the f-cking football. Getting out of his head with the throwing mechanics and this is what you get. Let the incremental growth come with accuracy organically. He's playing confidently and the road never scared him anyway. He's a gamer, let those attributes out. There are those chunks plays that O'Connell loves so much. Much to learn and get better at for JJM but now you can SEE it. Finally. I'm sure a few fans will move the goalposts again for him, but here he comes....one week at a time.
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Tonight marks the third time the @Vikings ' J.J. McCarthy has thrown multiple TD passes while also rushing for a TD in the same game.
No one else in NFL history has done that 3 times within the first 8 games of his career.
I was watching Drake Maye yesterday, and I thought "This time last year I was thinking this kid sucks big green donkey balls..." Look at him now.
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(Yesterday, 07:43 AM)Watcher Wrote: I was watching Drake Maye yesterday, and I thought "This time last year I was thinking this kid socks big green donkey balls..." Look at him now.
Great example, I thought so as well. Maye still hasn't thrown for 300 yards, which the online toxic Twitter avengers seem to ignorantly benchmark as success. Maye is playing GREAT now, I really love watching him. But he's not perfect either. I'm excited to see where JJ is after starting as many games as Drake Maye has.
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(Yesterday, 07:47 AM)StickierBuns Wrote: Great example, I thought so as well. Maye still hasn't thrown for 300 yards, which the online toxic Twitter avengers seem to ignorantly benchmark as success. Maye is playing GREAT now, I really love watching him. But he's not perfect either. I'm excited to see where JJ is after starting as many games as Drake Maye has.
Maye's schedule has been very favorable. Be interesting to see JJ next year with something similar.
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Collinsworth visually comparing the mechanics of a QB throwing left FROM THE POCKET to a right-handed QB ROLLING OUT left might have been the stupidest thing I've ever seen. I'm not saying McCarthy has perfect mechanics, but this was unfairly pushing the narrative. Right handed QBs who roll out left have to contort their body a little to get any kind of torque. To use THAT as your example of bad mechanics was bullshit.
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(Yesterday, 10:01 AM)MaroonBells Wrote: Collinsworth visually comparing the mechanics of a QB throwing left FROM THE POCKET to a right-handed QB ROLLING OUT left might have been the stupidest thing I've ever seen. I'm not saying McCarthy has perfect mechanics, but this was unfairly pushing the narrative. Right handed QBs who roll out left have to contort their body a little to get any kind of torque. To use THAT as your example of bad mechanics was bullshit.
Dipshits will dipshit.
Why isn't Chuck Foreman in the Hall of Fame?
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