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(Yesterday, 11:53 AM)MaroonBells Wrote: If we're just talking about JJ, then I wouldn't put the Cowboys down as tough. Only two teams have a worse pass defense than the Commies. One of them in the Cowboys. Now, they do have the best offense in the NFL in terms of YPG (and no one is even close), but then we're talking about the Vikings defense, which isn't typically our problem.

The Cowboys have a lot to play for still and its a national night game...Plus as you say they can light it up offensively. 

I think JJM will have to carry more of the load this week is all. Not sure we'll be able to run the ball +50% again. 

We'll see, at least they still have my interest.
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(Yesterday, 11:06 AM)purplefaithful Wrote: This reflects much of where my head is at too...

I THINK he's going to be "fine" but where's his ceiling? I really dont have a clue. I wish I had more examples on the field where I am feeling bullish about next year. 

Not there yet. 

They have to bring a vet in 26 to compete. Just because the biggest knock on JJM is staying on the field. Maybe he'll temper that concern some and play each remaining game this season. 

I dont know how the remainder of the season will impact their decision making on the QB room next year. I suspect a lot. 

He's got one more "easier game" vs Gmen, a tough one vs Dallas and then 2 even tougher division games. Thats a lot of data to sift through for them - if he stays healthy.

You have Brosmer that needs more opportunities as well if soemthing were to happen to JJM,   again...a middling veteran does nothing a coach can't do besides muddy the water even more when JJ does struggle along the way.  This is the path,  stay on it.
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(Yesterday, 11:53 AM)MaroonBells Wrote: If we're just talking about JJ, then I wouldn't put the Cowboys down as tough. Only two teams have a worse pass defense than the Commies. One of them in the Cowboys. Now, they do have the best offense in the NFL in terms of YPG (and no one is even close), but then we're talking about the Vikings defense, which isn't typically our problem.

Yeah, I'm less concerned about winning than I am about JJM continuing to grow.  If our defense struggles against a good offense, it doesn't really change how I feel about the game too much.  If JJM struggles hard against the Cowboys defense, well that would be concerning for me.  I don't really need to see JJM outcompete Dak, just stack quality play in the games that are left.  If we get the win, that's a bonus that makes us all feel good.
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(Yesterday, 12:13 PM)JimmyinSD Wrote: You have Brosmer that needs more opportunities as well if soemthing were to happen to JJM,   again...a middling veteran does nothing a coach can't do besides muddy the water even more when JJ does struggle along the way.  This is the path,  stay on it.

Your suggesting they go into 2026 with JJM/Brosmer and who? 

IMO they need a vet who can grab the reigns if need be. You cant have a repeat of this year at QB with Wentz as the backup. 

To steal from MB, the only question is will that vet be back0up material or someone  who will vie for a starter role next Fall? 

How much cap $$ will they throw at that QB room? Brosmer is greener than a Mamba and just a practice body imo. 

But all of that is a long ways off and we're still staring down 4 games to go.
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(Yesterday, 11:58 AM)purplefaithful Wrote: The Cowboys have a lot to play for still and its a national night game...Plus as you say they can light it up offensively. 

I think JJM will have to carry more of the load this week is all. Not sure we'll be able to run the ball +50% again. 

We'll see, at least they still have my interest.

Dallas is going to show up for sure. They are playing well recently and lost on the road in Detroit on TNF. Not many teams are winning that game.

I don't feel great about our chance at winning this game, but really I just hope McCarthy and the offense can look competent and have some success again.
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(Yesterday, 12:37 PM)purplefaithful Wrote: Your suggesting they go into 2026 with JJM/Brosmer and who? 

IMO they need a vet who can grab the reigns if need be. You cant have a repeat of this year at QB with Wentz as the backup. 

To steal from MB, the only question is will that vet be back0up material or someone  who will vie for a starter role next Fall? 

How much cap $$ will they throw at that QB room? Brosmer is greener than a Mamba and just a practice body imo. 

But all of that is a long ways off and we're still staring down 4 games to go.

What is the upside of a vet to compete with JJM?  Zero IMO,  so then what is the upside to a vet that isnt even at the level of a 2nd year player?  If Brosmer isn't in your future plans then send him packing.  If he is then he needs all the reps and exposure he can get.  I would rather they bring in a 3rd young guy than another clip board holder that offers nothing.   If we want someone to push JJM,  make it a young guy that may become something valuable to the team,  no more washed up veterans.
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(11 hours ago)JimmyinSD Wrote: What is the upside of a vet to compete with JJM?  Zero IMO,  so then what is the upside to a vet that isnt even at the level of a 2nd year player?  If Brosmer isn't in your future plans then send him packing.  If he is then he needs all the reps and exposure he can get.  I would rather they bring in a 3rd young guy than another clip board holder that offers nothing.   If we want someone to push JJM,  make it a young guy that may become something valuable to the team,  no more washed up veterans.

If you were the Colts right now. Who do you think they would rather have on staff right now. Brosmer or Garoppolo, Mariota, Brissett, Wentz, Minshew, or even Cousins. Guessing the answer is easy. 

Point is, Brosmer most likely end up even close to any of these and he an UDFA. Why a veteran is so important in the backup role.
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(9 hours ago)Canthony Wrote: If you were the Colts right now. Who do you think they would rather have on staff right now. Brosmer or Garoppolo, Mariota, Brissett, Wentz, Minshew, or even Cousins. Guessing the answer is easy. 

Point is, Brosmer most likely end up even close to any of these and he an UDFA. Why a veteran is so important in the backup role.

The Colts aren't trying to develop a qb of the future so your scenario is pointless.  They had essentially given up on Richardson whereas the Vikings are no where near that with JJM.  If you bring in a veteran that is capable of winning,  then you are saying you dont trust the kid as you know the fans will turn on the kid first sign of trouble.  Either they want to find their future or they want to try and compete with their present.  Weve been through this countless times,  I want to see them stay the course and find a young guy and then load for bear with him and his rookie contract.  A competent back up is going to cost 15 to 20 million easy,  I would rather spend that on people not holding clip boards on game day.  If JJM fails or otherwise suggests a new plan is needed, then I worry about that after next year.

And Brosmers ceiling is likely just as high as retread QBs...neither are likely to win it all. I think anybody that thinks they know his potential are over valuing their own opinions.
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