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StickierBuns · (This post was last modified: Yesterday, 07:25 PM by StickierBuns.)

...but we let Uncle Sammy, Danny Dimes and Aaron Rodgers walk for what we've seen so far in 2025? Its the most inept QBing I've witnessed by one team maybe ever. This turnaround from last year's 14 wins is almost unbelievable. You going to tell me this Seattle team wasn't oh so beatable with the way the Viking's D was after them? Minnesota should be ashamed by their offensive line play. Saying they are snakebit with injuries there is a massive understatement. Kelly went out AGAIN with an injury. So at one point the line was missing Darrisaw, Jackson and Kelly.....while Fries was getting his ass handed to him. Its all really nuts.

Bottom line: despite ALL the rest, the QB play has gutted this team and its potential for 2025. If you started Case Keenum, and I mean right now 37 year old Case Keenum, we'd probably be 8-4 right now, maybe better. ANYONE else. Its an unwatchable offense.

Still Hurtn · Yesterday, 07:32 PM

Its criminal

Was today's game sponsored by the Somalia Autistic Foundation?

Viking1987isback · Yesterday, 08:19 PM

Daniel Jones and we win the superbowl

supafreak84 · (This post was last modified: Yesterday, 08:34 PM by supafreak84.)

Which again brings me to the question...how could KOC and the front office screw the quarterback room up this badly? For people supposedly "experts in the know" they couldn't have screwed it up more if they tried. Four years in, this should not be the result and if it takes getting booed out of the home stadium for the Wilfs to finally maake some much needed changes, then I'm 100% on board with seeing that play out.

JR44 · Yesterday, 08:35 PM

4 years ago Wilfs hired a guy with no experience to oversee every personnel move and this is the result. We could have Nix, Darnold or Jones, 3 out of 4 solid choices and we went with the only bad option. It is not the just the QB position that has been mismanaged, watching this team today there is a complete void of talent. In addition, the culture of this team and the effort is just awful, the dropped passes, the missed tackles, the lack of focus and discipline. This team franchise is a complete mess, but I do not think the Wilfs will do anything about it.

medaille · (This post was last modified: Yesterday, 09:13 PM by medaille.)

(Yesterday, 08:27 PM)supafreak84 Wrote: Which again brings me to the question...how could KOC and the front office screw the quarterback room up this badly? For people supposedly "experts in the know" they couldn't have screwed it up more if they tried. Four years in, this should not be the result and if it takes getting booed out of the home stadium for the Wilfs to finally maake some much needed changes, then I'm 100% on board with seeing that play out.

I don't think it's a personnel problem. I think it's a scheme problem. I think he just runs an offense that requires a certain skillset from the QBs that doesn't really exist in a year 1 QB or a guy thats been in his offense for only a couple weeks and I think the league knows that all the receivers are running 20 yard routes on every play and just camp on those routes and the outlet receivers are busy with a subpar chip and can't get there in time.

comet52 · Yesterday, 09:12 PM

(Yesterday, 09:07 PM)medaille Wrote: I don't think it's a personnel problem. I think it's a scheme problem. I think he just runs an offense that requires a certain skillset from the QBs that doesn't really exist in a year 1 QB or a guy thats been in his offense for only a couple weeks.

KOC is a fraud who's in way over his head.

supafreak84 · (This post was last modified: Yesterday, 11:19 PM by supafreak84.)

(Yesterday, 09:07 PM)medaille Wrote: I don't think it's a personnel problem. I think it's a scheme problem. I think he just runs an offense that requires a certain skillset from the QBs that doesn't really exist in a year 1 QB or a guy thats been in his offense for only a couple weeks and I think the league knows that all the receivers are running 20 yard routes on every play and just camp on those routes and the outlet receivers are busy with a subpar chip and can't get there in time.

I think that plays a part in it, but the bigger part is the people we entrusted with making the big decisions just flat out misevaluated the quarterback room...badly.

greediron · 11 hours ago

(Yesterday, 08:27 PM)supafreak84 Wrote: Which again brings me to the question...how could KOC and the front office screw the quarterback room up this badly? For people supposedly "experts in the know" they couldn't have screwed it up more if they tried. Four years in, this should not be the result and if it takes getting booed out of the home stadium for the Wilfs to finally maake some much needed changes, then I'm 100% on board with seeing that play out.

I have a theory. KOC can't figure out how to coach a young QB. He is the whisperer for a vet, but give him a kid and he can't coach him out of a wet bag.

comet52 · 6 hours ago

(11 hours ago)greediron Wrote: I have a theory. KOC can't figure out how to coach a young QB. He is the whisperer for a vet, but give him a kid and he can't coach him out of a wet bag.

His statement about organizations failing young quarterbacks turned out to be an unconscious tell.