So here's why I'm worried about JJ....

[MaroonBells]

Man, this one's really hard to figure out. The only possible explanation I have is that it's in his head. Maybe he needs a shrink more than a coach. 

Because I don't remember mechanics-related accuracy being an issue in his college film. I don't remember mechanics-related accuracy being an issue in training camp last year or in the Oakland preseason game, or in this year's combined practice against the Pats. How he can have all the tools, look so promising, and then fail so badly is just shocking to me. 

I feel bad for the kid. 22 years old, new baby at home, and you have a history of depression. You're the QB for one of the most talented rosters in the NFL, and YOU are really the only reason, certainly the biggest reason, why it's not winning. Jordan Addison didn't have a catch yesterday. He's aiming toward a contract. He and others, while publicly supportive, have to be burning inside. 

In another depressing thought, it can take years for teams to recover from missing on a QB in the top 10. OK, so maybe he's on the Darnold path or the Mayfield path. A couple weeks ago I was dreading that thought—that it was our worst-case scenario. Now it's looking like it might be our BEST-case scenario when it comes to JJ McCarthy. Even those guys, as bad as they were early on, were never THIS bad. Hell, even Ponder took his team to the playoffs, and he didn't have anywhere near the roster talent around him. 

I think it's time to consider sitting the kid for his own good.

[pattersaur]

I read and trusted the things I'd been told the last 18 months.

6 games into it,  he's way below what was advertised.

Again, I knew it was gonna be bumpy, 

the benefit of redshirting last year hasn't shown up on the field  this season.  Like not at all.

Disappointing.

^^^^^^

I could have written this myself. I had faith in JJM because I had faith in Kevin O'Connell.  Kevin thought this was all gonna work out, so I did.

I still have faith in both of them to be honest, I really do. But the gap between what we were sold and what we are getting is a mile wide right now, and that is worrisome as a fan.

JJM is green as grass and the organization clearly misread the situation BADLY.

Unfortunately, McCarthy looks like a QB that needed to be on the Jordan Love path to starting, not the Mahomes path. That's not what happened and now we're here and I really am not sure what to do. I am still on the side of keep starting him and praying things improve, but that's all heavily dependent on if the locker room is ready to play hard with him at QB or not. If the locker room has had it then I suppose some sort of change will need to be made.

Grim times. That was embarrassing yesterday.

[supafreak84]

In another depressing thought, it can take years for teams to recover from missing on a QB in the top 10. OK, so maybe he's on the Darnold path or the Mayfield path. A couple weeks ago I was dreading that thought—that it was our worst-case scenario. Now it's looking like it might be our BEST-case scenario when it comes to JJ McCarthy. Even those guys, as bad as they were early on, were never THIS bad. Hell, even Ponder took his team to the playoffs, and he didn't have anywhere near the roster talent around him. 

I think it's time to consider sitting the kid for his own good.

Well here's another thought, but if the season plays out at its current trajectory and we end up with a top 10 pick...you almost have to look at drafting another quarterback. It's a shitty situation to be in, but if McCarthy isn't the guy, then turn the page and move on. The Jets cut Zach Wilson after year 3. Steelers moved on from Kenny Pickett after year 2. Mac Jones after year 3 in New England. If it's not a salvageable situation, move on, and the sooner the better. 

Hopefully we have a new GM in place to make those decisions

[pattersaur]

Man, this one's really hard to figure out. The only possible explanation I have is that it's in his head. Maybe he needs a shrink more than a coach. 

Because I don't remember mechanics-related accuracy being an issue in his college film. I don't remember mechanics-related accuracy being an issue in training camp last year or in the Oakland preseason game, or in this year's combined practice against the Pats. How he can have all the tools, look so promising, and then fail so badly is just shocking to me. 

I feel bad for the kid. 22 years old, new baby at home, and you have a history of depression. You're the QB for one of the most talented rosters in the NFL, and YOU are really the only reason, certainly the biggest reason, why it's not winning. Jordan Addison didn't have a catch yesterday. He's aiming toward a contract. He and others, while publicly supportive, have to be burning inside. 

In another depressing thought, it can take years for teams to recover from missing on a QB in the top 10. OK, so maybe he's on the Darnold path or the Mayfield path. A couple weeks ago I was dreading that thought—that it was our worst-case scenario. Now it's looking like it might be our BEST-case scenario when it comes to JJ McCarthy. Even those guys, as bad as they were early on, were never THIS bad. Hell, even Ponder took his team to the playoffs, and he didn't have anywhere near the roster talent around him. 

I think it's time to consider sitting the kid for his own good.

On the mechanics stuff... why exactly are we even doing that? Did those have to be changed the second he arrived in the league and could stand upright or could we have kind of massaged some of those tweaks in along the way?

I love KO but I wish his offense was more malleable to who is playing QB back there. McCarthy's strengths in college were game managing a run first offense with some big time throws and some scrambling/QB runs. We never call QB draws- EVER- and scrambling has disappeared completely from JJM's game over the past two weeks. Why?

Yesterday was the first game all year we came out with a running-focused offense that would presumably make JJM more comfortable. Unfortunately, it was on the road against a good run defense. And on the other side we were making the Emmanuel Wilson HB Dive look unstoppable.

It was bad. It's bad. We're bad.

[Knucklehead]

The biggest miss of the offseason was our inability to resign Daniel Jones. (I'm not going to refer to it as a failure because reportedly, the Vikings offered him more guaranteed money, but Jones correctly gambled that he could beat out AR for the starting gig in Indy rather than backing up JJM). With Jones this team at a minimum, is a wildcard contender.

[JimmyinSD]

Anybody else catch the JJM stat yesterday that he didnt throw much better than 50% in college to his left.

And it could have been worse,  that wr screen they tried to throw early on should have been a pick six if the defender hadn't had his back to the play.

They need to give JJs brain a break,  like others have suggested maybe a sports psychiatrist or whatever can get him straightened out,  either way this reps thing isn't working so make the change and make it this week.

[badgervike]

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