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(10-31-2025, 02:58 PM)supafreak84 Wrote: That's not true. First and second year players can be impactful starters and better players than a lot of older veterans. Happens every year
And our 2020 draft included Jefferson, Brandel and Josh Mettelus along with a few guys who were decent starters for us and are starters on other teams now.
Forgot Metellus. So 3 for 15, which is actually a very good draft by NFL standards.
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I think they need to look at moving on from Chris Kuper
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Interesting thread. Brandel sucks and Mattelus can't cover. Niether can Murphy; and sadly several other players on the team can't measure up. The Vikings are screwed depending on players like this. It's an ongoing problem for the Vikings and other Minnesota professional sports teams, they have some great players, but not enough good players to be championship contenders. The Vikings get a team that has the talent to win about every 10 years. They are overdue and this isn't going to be that year.
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Going to need a very solid outing by the O-line and some smart play calling to stay in this one. Fingers crossed but I'm way short of optimism for this game.
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(11-01-2025, 10:44 PM)hogjowlsjohnny Wrote: Interesting thread. Brandel sucks and Mattelus can't cover. Niether can Murphy; and sadly several other players on the team can't measure up. The Vikings are screwed depending on players like this. It's an ongoing problem for the Vikings and other Minnesota professional sports teams, they have some great players, but not enough good players to be championship contenders. The Vikings get a team that has the talent to win about every 10 years. They are overdue and this isn't going to be that year.
Love ya, Johnny Hog, but this is the kind of thing that amuses me about Viking fans. Josh Metellus and Byron Murphy aren't just playing off their standards. It's that they suck, they've always sucked, will always suck, and by the way, all Minnesota professional sports teams suck!
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(11-01-2025, 04:05 PM)Vikergirl Wrote: I think they need to look at moving on from Chris Kuper
100%
Look, everything smells kinda rancid right now to me and I am damn salty about it, I fully admit it. But when I look at regressions of OL players here and up arrow performances for those that left?
Kuper has always been a suspect positional coach imo and this year doesnt help his cause.
So I guess I am advocating for
New COO (bye Miller)
New GM (bye KAM)
Refresh KOC positional coaches
Revamp Scouting minus Grigson
LOL!
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(11-02-2025, 09:51 AM)MaroonBells Wrote: Love ya, Johnny Hog, but this is the kind of thing that amuses me about Viking fans. Josh Metellus and Byron Murphy aren't just playing off their standards. It's that they suck, they've always sucked, will always suck, and by the way, all Minnesota professional sports teams suck!
Must have fell prey to a brief moment of pessimism! Happens when teams start losing I guess.
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(11-02-2025, 10:29 AM)purplefaithful Wrote: So I guess I am advocating for
New COO (bye Miller)
New GM (bye KAM)
Refresh KOC positional coaches
Revamp Scouting minus Grigson
LOL!
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I'm advocating for beating the Lions and getting back to .500!
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