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(10-19-2025, 03:50 AM)StickierBuns Wrote: ![[Image: x8r9x9qsoovf1.jpeg]](https://i.redd.it/x8r9x9qsoovf1.jpeg)
If you wanted to illustrate how bad his drafting has been you'd have to show him in coaching/PE shorts from the 70s/80s.
Why isn't Chuck Foreman in the Hall of Fame?
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(10-19-2025, 03:50 AM)StickierBuns Wrote: ![[Image: x8r9x9qsoovf1.jpeg]](https://i.redd.it/x8r9x9qsoovf1.jpeg) Funny thing is, if you don’t get the HC right the rest doesn’t matter.
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(10-19-2025, 07:41 AM)JustInTime Wrote: Funny thing is, if you don’t get the HC right the rest doesn’t matter.
A big plus for KAM.....I do love O'Connell. Think he's an excellent tactician and modern NFL HC. But his constant Coachspeak does grate on me lately....nitpicky I suppose.
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(10-19-2025, 07:43 AM)StickierBuns Wrote: A big plus for KAM.....I do love O'Connell. Think he's an excellent tactician and modern NFL HC. But his constant Coachspeak does grate on me lately....nitpicky I suppose.
Yah, thats a 1st world problem in the fan world of the NFL.
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Other than not understanding what sunk costs are, pretty good article. He’s getting there. There’s growth and you see flashes. BFlo does him no favors in how he’s deployed, but he’s a work in progress.
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(10-19-2025, 07:43 AM)StickierBuns Wrote: A big plus for KAM.....I do love O'Connell. Think he's an excellent tactician and modern NFL HC. But his constant Coachspeak does grate on me lately....nitpicky I suppose.
It's just because we're frustrated about the McCarthy situation.
But that should be settled next week.
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Turner, a 2024 first-round pick, was expected to take on an increased role in his second season with the Vikings, but his responsibilities have seen an even greater uptick as veteran outside linebacker Andrew Van Ginkel has missed five games because of a concussion and neck injury.
Through six games, Turner has played 271 snaps, just 39 shy of his 2024 season total. With his snap counts this season ranging from 29 to 65 and Van Ginkel out again, it’s possible Turner pushes past his rookie season snap total against the Chargers.
He has started five straight games and has 22 tackles, 1½ sacks, three tackles for loss and three quarterback hurries. His tackle total already surpasses 2024, and he’s well within reach of both his sack total (three) and QB hurry total (five).
Vikings coach Kevin O’Connell acknowledged this week that Turner is being asked “to do quite a bit, especially in our emphasis of trying to stop the run.”
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(10-23-2025, 09:13 AM)purplefaithful Wrote: Turner, a 2024 first-round pick, was expected to take on an increased role in his second season with the Vikings, but his responsibilities have seen an even greater uptick as veteran outside linebacker Andrew Van Ginkel has missed five games because of a concussion and neck injury.
Through six games, Turner has played 271 snaps, just 39 shy of his 2024 season total. With his snap counts this season ranging from 29 to 65 and Van Ginkel out again, it’s possible Turner pushes past his rookie season snap total against the Chargers.
He has started five straight games and has 22 tackles, 1½ sacks, three tackles for loss and three quarterback hurries. His tackle total already surpasses 2024, and he’s well within reach of both his sack total (three) and QB hurry total (five).
Vikings coach Kevin O’Connell acknowledged this week that Turner is being asked “to do quite a bit, especially in our emphasis of trying to stop the run.”
He sucks.
And if you believe in the grades, they don't look great. But I don't need PFF to tell me what my eyeballs already have:
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So, use PFF when it suits a narrative.
PFF has a cult following when it doesn’t suit a narrative.
Gotcha

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