Browns game

[pattersaur]

So....if Darrisaw is on a pitch count? Why isnt he playing quarters 2 and 4? Instead of being out Q4???

On this, I personally will be clenched throughout the duration of our entire bye, and then up until-- and possibly beyond-- our first Wednesday practice report.

[MaroonBells]

Is anybody going to talk about it?  On that touchdown play to Addison at the end, Skule (playing LT) was way offside.  I kept looking for the flag during the celebration.  Maybe Karma for the Will the Thrill kick hitting the wire.  Should have been 2nd and 15 instead of a TD.  Evidently Skule's new secret to keeping up with the defensive pressure is to get a head start.

If it was anything it was a false start, but refs have been letting those split-second-early moves slide. Skule had done that a few times prior to that play. There's a tackle in Kansas City who does this habitually. I think his argument is that he's leaving on the count and the center is just a split second slow in snapping the ball. If it's close like that they tend to let it go.

[badgervike]

If it was anything it was a false start, but refs have been letting those split-second-early moves slide. Skule had done that a few times prior to that play. There's a tackle in Kansas City who does this habitually. I think his argument is that he's leaving on the count and the center is just a split second slow in snapping the ball. If it's close like that they tend to let it go.

Obviously what I meant.  The coffee hasn't kicked in after a busy weekend.

[medaille]

If it was anything it was a false start, but refs have been letting those split-second-early moves slide. Skule had done that a few times prior to that play. There's a tackle in Kansas City who does this habitually. I think his argument is that he's leaving on the count and the center is just a split second slow in snapping the ball. If it's close like that they tend to let it go.

Yeah, they’ve been letting tackles go slightly early for a few years now.  I think the general rule is if the back foot doesn’t land before the snap, they’re more or less not getting called for it.  Not a “rule” I’m in favor of, but if the league is allowing it across the board, then we shouldn’t be holding ourselves to a higher standard that makes our lives more difficult.

[greediron]

Yeah, they’ve been letting tackles go slightly early for a few years now.  I think the general rule is if the back foot doesn’t land before the snap, they’re more or less not getting called for it.  Not a “rule” I’m in favor of, but if the league is allowing it across the board, then we shouldn’t be holding ourselves to a higher standard that makes our lives more difficult.

interesting.  I didn't know about that rule, but have seen that repeatedly from other teams and wondered why it wasn't called.  Now I know.

[badgervike]

Yeah, they’ve been letting tackles go slightly early for a few years now.  I think the general rule is if the back foot doesn’t land before the snap, they’re more or less not getting called for it.  Not a “rule” I’m in favor of, but if the league is allowing it across the board, then we shouldn’t be holding ourselves to a higher standard that makes our lives more difficult.

Maybe they're trying to counter the league emphasis on the Tackles being on the line of scrimmage? They used to ignore if the Tackles lined up slightly off the line of scrimmage

[Montana Tom]

I think I agree with all of this. Dillon Gabriel was not a major threat passing the ball and that allowed our defense to play pretty well, despite Judkins running strong and getting yardage all day.

In fairness to Gabriel since I'm feeling charitable after a Vikes win, the talent discrepancy between Jefferson/Addison and Jeudy/whoever else the Browns have at WR was a massive edge for us in this game. Both 18 and 3 caught everything in sight, showing elite hands, routes, and speed. Addison might be a bonehead but that man can play some ball! I hope it works out for him to remain in Minnesota.

Mason again looked great running the ball when he's not fumbling the ball.

I was shocked at how well our offensive line played. I wonder how much jetlag the Browns were feeling this week compared to our guys who'd been in Europe longer, and if that played a part.

Dallas Turner-- I had a weekly thread on this guy last year and I haven't had the energy to do it again. He seems... fine. Not an impact player for us right now by any stretch of the imagination.

I continue to be very, very glad to have Kevin O'Connell as the coach of this team. Kevin Stefanski is a great coach with a great roster who can't squeeze good QB play out of anyone. For years! Think about that and think about the production we've gotten from absolute nobodies. If Carson Wentz wasn't on the Vikings would anyone even be surprised if he was just retired right now? And yet he's kind of balling out! Our skill players help a lot but KO is that guy.

It was ugly at times but I'm thrilled the Vikings won. Just keep the boat afloat for now, who knows what can happen down the road.

Oh, and Myles Price continues to be awesome! I wonder if he's reached out to his purple father Marcus Scherels for advice yet.

I knew that Gabriel did not have the physical stature that your typical NFL QB has, which is why his stock dropped during the draft.  Oregon keeps putting QBs in the NFL.

But that brief image on TV after the game with 6'5" Wentz talking down to 5'11" Gabriel spoke volumes to me.