Charlie Kirk Shot

[JimmyinSD]

I am truly sickened by this assassination. Kirk embodied what I think we all need to learn and that is to respect everyone, especially in disagreement. To act harshly towards others at this time would not be honoring his memory.

[Waterboy]

PF is one of the most genuinely good humans you will ever meet.  Despite his political differences,   I can guarantee you he found no joy in the actions of today,  and any inference to the contrary will not be tolerated.

Jimmy, I said virtually the same thing and you know how I feel about PF.  We both kept it respectful. I took issue with the shot at Thoughts and Prayers and he acknowledged he shouldn’t have done so.  End of story on that end and no chastening necessary.

[purplefaithful]

PF is one of the most genuinely good humans you will ever meet.  Despite his political differences,   I can guarantee you he found no joy in the actions of today,  and any inference to the contrary will not be tolerated.

As far as I'm concerned, WB and I are on good terms...

We have our listening ears on when the other speaks and its always been respectful, even when we vehemently disagree. 

Give me a call soon, we'll catch-up and I'll let you know how recovery is coming along.

[JimmyinSD]

Liz May, state Representative from SD:

Socrates once said that the unexamined life is not worth living. He paid for that conviction with his life, condemned by his own city for daring to question authority. Plato, his student, carried those lessons forward, warning that a Republic cannot survive if its people trade reasoned debate for fear and silence.
That same thread runs through the Declaration of Independence. Jefferson and our Founders declared that liberty itself rests on the right to speak, to question, and to challenge power. Free speech is not a luxury in a Republic — it is its very foundation.
The assassination of Charlie Kirk was more than the murder of a man — it was a message. A message meant to silence anyone who dares to use their freedom of speech. We can either cower, or we can stand. We owe it to the sacrifices of patriots before us to choose courage.
What saddens me most is not just the act itself, but the reaction. Some of our fellow Americans are celebrating the assassination of another American. That is the real story. Each of us should look in the mirror and ask: why do I feel this way? Some are deleting these voices from social media, as if erasing them will erase the problem. I will not delete them. I want people to see it — to see where hatred leads when left unchecked.
If you are a leader, you cannot say “Charlie deserved to die.” To even whisper such a thing is to condone tyranny. They killed Charlie to shut you up, out of fear. Don’t let them.
Courage is not measured in mobs, in fists, or in bullets. Courage is measured in standing firm in your convictions, speaking truth even when it costs you, and showing decency even to those who oppose you. That is the lesson of Socrates. That is the warning of Plato. And that is the price Charlie Kirk has paid.
I pray the young people who followed Charlie will step up and carry on the debate. Our Republic depends on it.
RIP, Charlie — good and faithful servant. May your courage live on in the next generation, and may we never let freedom of speech be silenced in America.

[Vikergirl]

Agree or disagree, he didn't deserve to go out like that. A wife is a widow and children will grow up without a father.

He spread a lot of hate and caused damage along the way. The division in this country and around the world will remain. Working with kiddos and parents after the shooting here has my guard up.

The footage of the person on the roof is concerning to say the least. The suspect will answer to the fullest extent of the law for his actions

[badgervike]

Agree or disagree, he didn't deserve to go out like that. A wife is a widow and children will grow up without a father.

He spread a lot of hate and caused damage along the way. The division in this country and around the world will remain. Working with kiddos and parents after the shooting here has my guard up.

The footage of the person on the roof is concerning to say the least. The suspect will answer to the fullest extent of the law for his actions

That was unnecessary VG.  When you say "he spread a lot of hate and caused damage along the way"....aren't you really just making a backhanded case for his assassination?  As someone that watched his clips for years, I can tell you that comment certainly didn't describe him.  Do you actually have much familiarity with his work or just going off what you read fom the Far Left?

As I said, I didn't agree with some of his stances...but I did agree with his approach.

[Waterboy]

Agree or disagree, he didn't deserve to go out like that. A wife is a widow and children will grow up without a father.

He spread a lot of hate and caused damage along the way. The division in this country and around the world will remain. Working with kiddos and parents after the shooting here has my guard up.

The footage of the person on the roof is concerning to say the least. The suspect will answer to the fullest extent of the law for his actions

WTF is with this insane liberal talking point.  He did not spread hate.  He engaged in debate and welcomed the public exchange of facts and ideas.  Because liberal ideas have veered so far from the mainstream, they instantly resort to labels of Nazism, Concentration Camps, and Fascism to anyone who dares to disagree with them.  All the while, your side looks past blacks being slaughtered in the inner cities, hard-working American being slaughtered financially and physically by illegals, and encouraging juveniles to do permanent damage to their bodies and minds.  How dare a person challenge your ideals because they have a different vision?   If speaking out against parents enabling 5 yr olds to go through hormone therapy and surgeries to change their sex, when they have no idea of what the concept even means, he was one hateful dude.  Speaking up against discrimination for any race or gender is not hate speech.  Illegal immigration encourages child trafficking, drug transport, and cheats people trying to enter the country legally.  It would be AWESOME if we could let every single individual who wanted to be here in.  It can't happen and still maintain a law abiding and prosperous country.  Face it, your side is the side of hate and you're just too jaded to understand that.  The avg Democrat is so radical as to not even deserve to be taken seriously.  How dare a guy be self-made, have a beautiful family, be Christian, and want to spread his ideals and values.  How dare Charlie Kirk.  Right?   You might as well just say it all instead of your lame fricking false sorrow.

[Vikergirl]

That was unnecessary VG.  When you say "he spread a lot of hate and caused damage along the way"....aren't you really just making a backhanded case for his assassination?  As someone that watched his clips for years, I can tell you that comment certainly didn't describe him.  Do you actually have much familiarity with his work or just going off what you read fom the Far Left?

As I said, I didn't agree with some of his stances...but I did agree with his approach.

No I am not making a case for that at all and I never would. I don't follow the far left much at all actually. Like I said I don't agree with him and I also said he didn't deserve what happened to him. I also said that whoever did this needs to answer for it in a court of law. Tensions are high right now and we need to figure out how to move forward. I don't wish harm on anyone, certainly not anyone I disagree with. There is a huge difference in priorities and approach and that will continue to be an issue

[Waterboy]

No I am not making a case for that at all and I never would. I don't follow the far left much at all actually. Like I said I don't agree with him and I also said he didn't deserve what happened to him. I also said that whoever did this needs to answer for it in a court of law. Tensions are high right now and we need to figure out how to move forward. I don't wish harm on anyone, certainly not anyone I disagree with. There is a huge difference in priorities and approach and that will continue to be an issue

Why don't you tell us what he talked of that you disagreed with?  I'm guessing you're just ill-informed and saying what others say instead what Chalie advocated which was to educate yourself.

[badgervike]

No I am not making a case for that at all and I never would. I don't follow the far left much at all actually. Like I said I don't agree with him and I also said he didn't deserve what happened to him. I also said that whoever did this needs to answer for it in a court of law. Tensions are high right now and we need to figure out how to move forward. I don't wish harm on anyone, certainly not anyone I disagree with. There is a huge difference in priorities and approach and that will continue to be an issue

VG..I respectfully disagree.  You obviously haven't spent much time listening to him...but you were comfortable saying that he spread a lot of hate...now watered down to "I don't agree with him".  We need to get beyond calling people that disagree with you Nazis, Fascists, Purveyors of Hate, etc.  Can't we just simply disagree?