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So wait until you see McCarthy run
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(Yesterday, 01:06 PM)JustInTime Wrote: I thought mobility was the topic.


Definitely. It was maddening. 3rd and 14. You cover everyone. He runs for 19 and scoots out of bounds.

I think he was even more dangerous passing during those unscripted moments. Maybe the best Ive seen.
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(Yesterday, 01:13 PM)purplefaithful Wrote: I think he was even more dangerous passing during those unscripted moments. Maybe the best Ive seen.

Had he retired 3-5 years ago, he’d be remembered as a top 5 QB easily. Now, he’s a weirdo who stayed past his expiration date.
“Hell is empty and all the devils are here”

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#13
(Yesterday, 01:06 PM)JustInTime Wrote: I thought mobility was the topic.


Definitely. It was maddening. 3rd and 14. You cover everyone. He runs for 19 behind shameless, uncalled holds, and scoots out of bounds.

Fixed it for ya.
Wishing a great season for the team, Especially Mundt and Kwenkeu! Big Grin
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#14
Like you can certainly make it as a pure pocket passer, but the NFL has moved on from that model as the ideal. Most of the best QBs are going to have scrambling ability to go with their passing ability. I think the big thing to hammer home with these guys is that most of the time, it’s not worth it to get hit. Get some yards, avoid contact if you can. The defense can confuse their inexperienced minds, but adding the threat of running the ball levels the playing field so much. To be honest, we’ve got a window with JJM, and one of the biggest advantages a young guy has is his legs. Why waste two years of that window by limiting his advantages in hoping that he becomes a 20 year guy? Aaron Rodgers won a SB early in his career on the back of his scrambling and hasn’t made it back since. Win now, worry about later when it gets here.
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(Yesterday, 01:06 PM)JustInTime Wrote: I thought mobility was the topic.

I was being a bit flippant and disparaging Rodgers, not you.

But to my larger point, using mobility to stress the D is great.  But Rodgers loved the hero ball and often passed over the normal play and moving the ball for a hero moment.  The packer fans remember the good ones, but that screws up the offensive game plan, makes for larger negative plays as well and breaks collar bones.  I think you used to have a signature regarding the last one.
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#16
(Yesterday, 01:48 PM)Zanary Wrote: Fixed it for ya.

Fair.

If James Campen ever became available, I’d move heaven and earth to get him on our team.
“Hell is empty and all the devils are here”

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#17
I do agree. We were so conditioned to not having a mobile QB with Cousins, the broken QB carousel of two seasons ago was a blur...lots of broken plays with the Passtronaut that ended up losing their unexpected luster.

Last season, Darnold showed far more mobility than Cousins, but that was confounding with how long he held onto the ball, often creating the problem himself.

I am intrigued to see a real dual-threat QB wearing purple (that is not a Ravens uniform!!)
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#18
Yeah, as many of you picked up, my point isn't that JJM is Michael Vick. He's not going to run 12 times a game by design. But KOC might use a play on first down to run him. Or in other situations sparingly to keep a D guessing. It worked like a charm at Michigan for giant chunk plays. SPARINGLY. And then of course all of the plays that break down in the pocket, watch him go. And he also scrambles to throw. That element for an opposing defense is always going to be there to be concerned about. And of course KOC wants to be safe about it, but don't think he won't use JJM's running ability as a very small part of the gameplan. He's be a fool not to.
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#19
running is great, but pocket movement and buying time is what really woo's me and rocks my world.

Ponder and KC were the worst, Rogers and Mahomes some of the best.
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(Today, 04:17 AM)StickierBuns Wrote: Yeah, as many of you picked up, my point isn't that JJM is Michael Vick. He's not going to run 12 times a game by design. But KOC might use a play on first down to run him. Or in other situations sparingly to keep a D guessing. It worked like a charm at Michigan for giant chunk plays. SPARINGLY. And then of course all of the plays that break down in the pocket, watch him go. And he also scrambles to throw. That element for an opposing defense is always going to be there to be concerned about. And of course KOC wants to be safe about it, but don't think he won't use JJM's running ability as a very small part of the gameplan. He's be a fool not to.

You can damage a QB by letting him run too much. He starts focusing on his escape instead of his receivers. But I think KOC is too smart for that. I think he'll put a proverbial shock-collar on JJ to train him to keep looking downfield first, second and last. They can probably take the collar off at some point after he gains some experience as a passer.
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