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OT: 2026 El Camino?
#31
I don’t think a Cybertruck is a horrible comparison.  It seems to me like it’s in that half-car, half-truck, mostly in the city niche that an El Camino would try to fill.  Only issue I have is that it isn’t giving me El Camino vibes.  I probably would have rebranded it as a newer S-10 Baja.  Striking this out.  I can't see some social media posts while at work, and was referring to a different rendering at the top of google that was giving much more truck vibes.
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(05-05-2025, 08:30 AM)purplefaithful Wrote: I drove an EV loaner for a week and LOVED IT! 

One of our next cars will be EV. 

Great for around town, which is the vast majority of our driving. They are fast as hell and I liked not spewing toxins into the atmosphere while driving too.

The EV segment will continue to grow, its not going to go away. Mfgrs understand that consumers want choices (ice, phev, bev) and they'll continue to have them for a long while (unless you live outside the US).

Others are looking into hydrogen, but that's a pipe dream imo.

If there’s ever a full size SUV I’d consider an EV. 

Hydrogen might be closer than you think.
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(05-05-2025, 10:40 AM)JustInTime Wrote: If there’s ever a full size SUV I’d consider an EV. 

Hydrogen might be closer than you think.

I just see how slow the electric rollout has been..Hydrogen intuitively will take longer imo. 

Like I posted earlier, Mfgrs have learned consumers want choices and thats a good thing. 

We're no longer car people, just SUV (or my little convertible).
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#34
I think the massive legislations to shore up EVs will end up being seen as overreach, at a global level. The charging stations still have consistency issues, the vehicles are still running relatively young science (and adding more bells/whistles by the minute), and buyers traded an awful lot of EVs back in after the initial push.

There were and are many simpler ways to push electrification, and I hope that hydrogen gains traction...but, EVs with "range extending engines" are a likely focus for the near term.
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(05-03-2025, 12:48 PM)Zanary Wrote: It's a decent concept, and I've liked "Rancheros" I've seen from Mustang foundations...

...but, right now, the car buying public is fixated on some version of a 'pregnant hatchback'. They're happening in all shapes, sizes, drivetrains, etc...sedans are almost dead, coupes likewise, pickups have to have Bluetooth, cupholders, and multiple screens....

I think it is the car makers fixated on the crossover hatchback.  It classifies as a truck and therefore not subject to the same level of safety regulations as cars.  That is why all of them look the same.

As to the El Camino, Ranchero, I hated the originals and feel the same for the new "retro" model.  The weird cross between truck and car just seems lame to me.  The bigger models like the Avalanche are just a bigger blight on the road.  Had a coworker mention his "truck" when we were moving work stuff.  Hard not to laugh knowing he drove an Avalanche.

(05-05-2025, 07:54 AM)Canthony Wrote: To be fair, I think all EVs are trash, and I am sick of the agenda getting pushed down our throats. I think the Tesla crybabies are funny though. 

With that being said, The Cybertruck is godawful. It is hideous.

saw one trimmed out to look like an actual dumpster.  Was spot on.
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Call me old fashioned, but I think a truck should be able to go over a speed bump without scraping bottom
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This one doesn’t look like it could be entered in a soap box derby.
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(05-06-2025, 02:59 AM)JustInTime Wrote:

This one doesn’t look like it could be entered in a soap box derby.

That's the thing that gets lost in all this. Politics and assembly issues aside, the Cybertruck is just one really ugly vehicle.
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(05-06-2025, 08:14 AM)MaroonBells Wrote: That's the thing that gets lost in all this. Politics and assembly issues aside, the Cybertruck is just one really ugly vehicle.

We have 3 or 4 in our neighborhood.....very ugly vehicles.
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(05-05-2025, 03:47 PM)greediron Wrote: I think it is the car makers fixated on the crossover hatchback.  It classifies as a truck and therefore not subject to the same level of safety regulations as cars.  That is why all of them look the same.

As to the El Camino, Ranchero, I hated the originals and feel the same for the new "retro" model.  The weird cross between truck and car just seems lame to me.  The bigger models like the Avalanche are just a bigger blight on the road.  Had a coworker mention his "truck" when we were moving work stuff.  Hard not to laugh knowing he drove an Avalanche.


I was OK with Rancheros, El Caminos, etc in that they were from a simpler time; they offered a fair amount of basic utility with easier ingress/egress than pickups...and got a few more mpg due to weighing a good bit less.

As I play music a lot of evenings but like a good performance car, some of the "Mustang Shooting Brake (wagon)" concepts always worked for me; having my power/handling plus space for amps and guitar cases was a happy thought. Realistically, I'll end up with an Explorer Sport or similar.
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