HEY KWESI!

[purplefaithful]

I'll go on record that there were some potential difference makers there in rd2 and I would have pulled the trigger with 26 assets for em.

Maybe they tried? But not hard enough for my liking or we would have acquired one.

Glad to have DJ here, but I didnt realize Xmas was going to be FA only. 

And the draft? Well the draft has been a mighty empty stocking hanging on the mantle. At least Grigson got himself a special teamer last night. 

I am disappointed - in myself. I should have seen this coming more clearly.

[StickierBuns]

My answer to that will always be the same. You see a difference maker you really believe in, you go get him. If it takes a future middle rounder or two, so be it. 

Did you really hear we were offering our 1st rounder next year? No, I don't do that. But I'll give up a heapin' helpin of future middle rounders—the Chaz Surrats, Wyatt Davises and Dru Samias of the world—to move up small and get a player I think his head and shoulders above the "next guy on the list."

.....or the Stefan Diggs (5th), Cam Bynum (4th), KJ Osborn (5th), Josh Metellus (6th) etc. Works both ways. Can't act like the middle rounds are garbage and worth giving away to chase 'difference makers', which is highly subjective. But yes, be aggressive when you can and feel very strongly about it. I just don't think that happens as often as you'd think. And again, every team is operating in the space so it can be a challenge to execute what you might feel as an organization is worth trading up for.

[MAD GAINZ]

My answer to that will always be the same. You see a difference maker you really believe in, you go get him. If it takes a future middle rounder or two, so be it. 

Did you really hear we were offering our 1st rounder next year? No, I don't do that. But I'll give up a heapin' helpin of future middle rounders—the Chaz Surrats, Wyatt Davises and Dru Samias of the world—to move up small and get a player I think his head and shoulders above the "next guy on the list."

No, but that is what I would have cost us at a minimum to get to 38.  It's why the Vikings were offering their 2026 2nd to try to get into the 50-60 range.  I was just stating that to get a true difference maker yesterday, we'd have had to get much higher than that and the cost would be more than a "few middle rounders".

Totally agree, if we have to give up a future 3rd and 5th or 4th and 6th, do it.  But that wasn't the case yesterday.

[MaroonBells]

I'll go on record that there were some potential difference makers there in rd2 and I would have pulled the trigger with 26 assets for em.

Maybe they tried? But not hard enough for my liking or we would have acquired one.

Glad to have DJ here, but I didnt realize Xmas was going to be FA. 

And the draft? Well the draft has been a mighty empty stocking hanging on the mantle. At least Grigson got himself a special teamer last night. 

I am disappointed - in myself. I should have seen this coming more clearly.

Well, you can't draft JJ McCarthy and Dallas Turner every year. Like I said before, I'll be happy with a 2023 repeat. If Donovan Jackson, like Addison, starts from day one, makes the all rookie team, is voted rookie of the month and is a candidate for OROY, and we draft one more player, like Blackmon, who makes a big contribution as a part time starter, I'll be giddier than a...something that's really giddy.

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No, but that is what I would have cost us at a minimum to get to 38.  It's why the Vikings were offering their 2026 2nd to try to get into the 50-60 range.  I was just stating that to get a true difference maker yesterday, we'd have had to get much higher than that and the cost would be more than a "few middle rounders".

Totally agree, if we have to give up a future 3rd and 5th or 4th and 6th, do it.  But that wasn't the case yesterday.

We were trying to get to 38? Wow, I didn't hear any of this.

[purplefaithful]

Well, you can't draft JJ McCarthy and Dallas Turner every year. Like I said before, I'll be happy with a 2023 repeat. If Donovan Jackson, like Addison, starts from day one, makes the all rookie team, is voted rookie of the month and is a candidate for OROY, and we draft one more player, like Blackmon, who makes a big contribution as a part time starter, I'll be giddier than a...something that's really giddy.

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We were trying to get to 38? Wow, I didn't hear any of this.

I didnt either...

Look, Vikings (hopefully) will be drafting in low 1st round for a while. Just like Ravens, Chiefs, Eagles...

I would not have given up a #1 for 38, but I would have given up quite a bit - if that talent I wanted was there. And it was.

[Waterboy]

People just overrate draft picks, almost as much as NFL teams do. You see a difference maker you believe in and it takes a future middle rounder or two to go get him, you do that. Every time. Of course you do.

And, if we hadn’t traded all those draft picks away in prior years for Cam Akers three or four times, we would have had the ammo to get that person without damaging our future to do so.  I’m not against using future picks wisely.  I don’t see the scenario you’re describing as using them wisely.  We landed someone who should help us immediately by moving down and I’m all for that.  Now we can use our next pick to move down a little and probably add another pick late.  We throw a ton of money out in rookie FA and use $20MM more in cap to fill out the roster and then using a draft pick for 26 to bring a talented backup qb in if we can’t get something of quality. Then you’re talking losing 5th or 6th round picks instead of likely 1st round picks to get to 38. Our second round plus third round pick next year likely gets us a deep 2nd round pick at best in this draft that by all accounts. Anybody we got there really isn’t someone that’s going to change things dramatically for this year’s team.

[MaroonBells]

I didnt either...

Look, Vikings (hopefully) will be drafting in low 1st round for a while. Just like Ravens, Chiefs, Eagles...

I would not have given up a #1 for 38, but I would have given up quite a bit - if that talent I wanted was there. And it was.

Looking at the draft, I think I know where 38 comes from. That's where Henderson was taken. And MG is right. That would've taken next year's 1st. I don't do that. I would have for Jeanty in the 1st round, without blinking an eye. 

Harvey went at 60, which would've cost us our 2026 2nd rounder. I definitely think about that one long and hard. But we don't even know that the Vikings even WANTED a RB. I know most of US did, but unless there's one more thing I haven't yet heard this morning, for all we know the Vikings may have been trying to move up for another position.

[purplefaithful]

Looking at the draft, I think I know where 38 comes from. That's where Henderson was taken. And MG is right. That would've taken next year's 1st. I don't do that. I would have for Jeanty in the 1st round, without blinking an eye. 

Harvey went at 60, which would've cost us our 2026 2nd rounder. I definitely think about that one long and hard. But we don't even know that the Vikings even WANTED a RB. I know most of US did, but unless there's one more thing I haven't yet heard this morning, for all we know the Vikings may have been trying to move up for another position.

I would have done that Harvey deal. 

I think its becoming clearer (with benefit of hindsight) they were not jonsing for a RB much...Maybe if there is a kid there they like late?

D needs some lovin b4 this draft is over.

[MAD GAINZ]

Looking at the draft, I think I know where 38 comes from. That's where Henderson was taken. And MG is right. That would've taken next year's 1st. I don't do that. I would have for Jeanty in the 1st round, without blinking an eye. 

Harvey went at 60, which would've cost us our 2026 2nd rounder. I definitely think about that one long and hard. But we don't even know that the Vikings even WANTED a RB. I know most of US did, but unless there's one more thing I haven't yet heard this morning, for all we know the Vikings may have been trying to move up for another position.

I just used 38 as an example, take your pick of trying to get up a few more for Emmanwori Schlesinger or Ferguson at TE or whoever you thought was a difference maker in that range of the 2nd round.

[JimmyinSD]

I was against using day 1 and 2 picks next year to move up in this years draft as I think they will be better used next year and will get more value from those 3 or 4 players selected than what we would gain from 1 marginally better player this year.

I may be wrong, but then again...i may be wrong.