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[Zanary]

Hold both sides accountable Z.  I have repeatedly pointed out that you only point out Trump failures and ignore the Biden failures.  You usually respond by calling me a liar and cherry picking...  I ask you to show me where you've held Biden/Kamala responsible.  What do you respond with?  Well there isn't actually anything...but you evidently had some issue with Biden when he was a Senator...20 years ago...too funny.

You used to be an independent thinker before you went full blue pill.  Hold all sides equally accountable.  Trump says a lot of stupid stuff...because as you pointed out...he likes to hear himself talk.  You were being generous with your every few days comment.  Should the FCC pull CBS' license for election manipulation?  Of course not.  They also shouldn't pull Fox News license like the Dem request to the FCC prior to Trump's return.  The FCC closed the Fox case when Carr took over and hasn't had an official request on Trump's off the cuff comment...but sure call out Trump's and not the Dems.  The Biden Admin also was extremely aggressive at pressuring to suppress information and engaged in full out legal warfare against Trump and the Republicans.  

You weep for the MS-13 gang banger, wife beater who came into this US illegally and was deported because the Trump Admin said there was an Administrative error.  The sheriffs in previous cases acknowledged his MS-13 gang affiliation and verified it with a confidential informant.  MS-13 is now a designated terrorist organization.  El Salvador also verified his gang affiliation when he was in Country.  They locked up their gang members and El Salvador has gone from one of the most dangerous SA countries to the safest.  If you're angry about that one individual...why aren't you angry about the 12 mil plus illegal immigrants that were admitted to the Country without proper vetting and follow up?  Do I think the Trump Admin is taking some shortcuts to reduce the burden in deportation?  Yep.  Do I think the Biden Admin took some shortcuts to admit these people?  ABSOLUTELY!  Biden and Kamala told us the border was secure btw but they don't lie according to you.  Maduro has openly mocked the US for taking all his dangerous prisoners leading to a reduction in crime in Venezuela.  That would seem to be an area the old Z would be angry about.

Firing federal employees.  Did you scream expletives when the Feds terminated employees because of their vax status?  

It's going to be a long 4 years for you Z.  Find a safe space.  Get a support animal.  Think you'll find lots to complain about...on both sides of the political spectrum.

Yep, you're still lying garbage. You say I'm "crying" for an immigrant, I point out that due process and more is stepped on by this treasonous administration...and its straight-up traitors in the orange sycophant club!

You ask why I don't pound my keyboard about the previous immigration issues, and I DID...repeatedly, especially when I was still in New Mexico. I've also pointed this out to you, directly, but you ignore it/cherry pick past it over and over again. I've called out both Biden and Harris, particularly after the latter was our "border czar"...but, again, you'll likely "forget" this again when you make the same bulls**t claims in a week or so. No matter how many times I called out "sleepy Joe" as a "vacuous waste" and/or some variations on "heels up Harris" and their disasters...you act like I was writing them into Nobel consideration. Quit lying, we have a president for that!

I have addressed it, I explain it, you re-muddle your accusatory bulls**t and ignore everything I've said. You're actually pushing dangerously high in the "agenda over intellect" rankings.

But, what YOU skip with dogged determination: the prez you defend (despite "not really liking him, but...") creates constant issues, sometimes several per day, and has the world reeling in various levels of trade wars, utter disrespect and/or threats to their sovereignty, laws being ignored/broken constantly by the prez, by DOGE...and that disaster has shrunk its highly-dramatic targets massively while overstepping and making huge errors with Americans careers/lives...

...while, y'know, shoring up those contracts and getting those pesky investigating agencies mothballed.

All of this is going on NOW, and I'm commenting on it now. I've never hidden the FACT (don't let that word scare you, sparky, hang in there) that I've seen him as lying s**t for over 3 decades, and I don't understand why so many people revel in him getting to skirt/avoid laws and punishments that "normies" get years in jail, for. It's bone-deep hypocrisy from the same screaming goons that were fapping themselves blind every time Rush Limbaugh or Trey Gowdy insisted that they've "got the Clintons, this time".

The same people that hate the lying, law-breaking, oval-office staining Clintons are cheering (though, cracks are forming in the fan club) for all of the legal/Constitutional/ethical disasters the traitor-in-chief commits shamelessly and maybe daily; this is pretty disgusting hypocrisy. If you can't walk your talk, shut the f*ck up. That used to be a basic rule of manhood, kinda like admitting mistakes...something our assclown prez avoids at all costs.

This administration, as I said before, has a slew of new s**t to talk about all day, essentially every day. Meanwhile, Sleepy Joe and Heels Up have done...what, 1 interview each this year?

Meanwhile, the orange stain, Vip's Big Billionaire Boy, and their cronies are spreading their s**t in actual legislations and actions all through each day. Do you think that's, maybe, exponentially more pertinent to the present conversations? The dems LOST, everyone knows Fauci's a sh*t, and all of that was figured out early last holiday season. Welcome to 2025, maybe no one told you it's a new year?

Quit assigning your bulls**t to me. Yeah, I'm pissed that we're a country that ADMITS ITS MISTAKE, the courts say "fix it", and we suddenly we can't produce a document and a plane ticket to our EMPLOYEE. I'm disgusted that the law, checks, and balances are waved off by a career con man, felon, and sexual assaulter...and people actually cheer for that, claiming to love this country. That's a complete contradiction, at least to functional people.

If this country doesn't care about law, about rights, about the futures of its regular citizens, and about actually walking its talk...how's any of that "great", redcaps?

[Waterboy]

Hold both sides accountable Z.  I have repeatedly pointed out that you only point out Trump failures and ignore the Biden failures.  You usually respond by calling me a liar and cherry picking...  I ask you to show me where you've held Biden/Kamala responsible.  What do you respond with?  Well there isn't actually anything...but you evidently had some issue with Biden when he was a Senator...20 years ago...too funny.

You used to be an independent thinker before you went full blue pill.  Hold all sides equally accountable.  Trump says a lot of stupid stuff...because as you pointed out...he likes to hear himself talk.  You were being generous with your every few days comment.  Should the FCC pull CBS' license for election manipulation?  Of course not.  They also shouldn't pull Fox News license like the Dem request to the FCC prior to Trump's return.  The FCC closed the Fox case when Carr took over and hasn't had an official request on Trump's off the cuff comment...but sure call out Trump's and not the Dems.  The Biden Admin also was extremely aggressive at pressuring to suppress information and engaged in full out legal warfare against Trump and the Republicans.  

You weep for the MS-13 gang banger, wife beater who came into this US illegally and was deported because the Trump Admin said there was an Administrative error.  The sheriffs in previous cases acknowledged his MS-13 gang affiliation and verified it with a confidential informant.  MS-13 is now a designated terrorist organization.  El Salvador also verified his gang affiliation when he was in Country.  They locked up their gang members and El Salvador has gone from one of the most dangerous SA countries to the safest.  If you're angry about that one individual...why aren't you angry about the 12 mil plus illegal immigrants that were admitted to the Country without proper vetting and follow up?  Do I think the Trump Admin is taking some shortcuts to reduce the burden in deportation?  Yep.  Do I think the Biden Admin took some shortcuts to admit these people?  ABSOLUTELY!  Biden and Kamala told us the border was secure btw but they don't lie according to you.  Maduro has openly mocked the US for taking all his dangerous prisoners leading to a reduction in crime in Venezuela.  That would seem to be an area the old Z would be angry about.

Firing federal employees.  Did you scream expletives when the Feds terminated employees because of their vax status?  

It's going to be a long 4 years for you Z.  Find a safe space.  Get a support animal.  Think you'll find lots to complain about...on both sides of the political spectrum.

Some of the causes and people that a portion of our population roots for is just incredible.  I don't think Trump or Republicans in general are always right, but I will support them and give them the benefit of the doubt given the fact that they tend to be on the right side of almost every issue as compared to the alternative.

[JimmyinSD]

Yep, you're still lying garbage. You say I'm "crying" for an immigrant, I point out that due process and more is stepped on by this treasonous administration...and its straight-up traitors in the orange sycophant club!

You ask why I don't pound my keyboard about the previous immigration issues, and I DID...repeatedly, especially when I was still in New Mexico. I've also pointed this out to you, directly, but you ignore it/cherry pick past it over and over again. I've called out both Biden and Harris, particularly after the latter was our "border czar"...but, again, you'll likely "forget" this again when you make the same bulls**t claims in a week or so. No matter how many times I called out "sleepy Joe" as a "vacuous waste" and/or some variations on "heels up Harris" and their disasters...you act like I was writing them into Nobel consideration. Quit lying, we have a president for that!

I have addressed it, I explain it, you re-muddle your accusatory bulls**t and ignore everything I've said. You're actually pushing dangerously high in the "agenda over intellect" rankings.

But, what YOU skip with dogged determination: the prez you defend (despite "not really liking him, but...") creates constant issues, sometimes several per day, and has the world reeling in various levels of trade wars, utter disrespect and/or threats to their sovereignty, laws being ignored/broken constantly by the prez, by DOGE...and that disaster has shrunk its highly-dramatic targets massively while overstepping and making huge errors with Americans careers/lives...

...while, y'know, shoring up those contracts and getting those pesky investigating agencies mothballed.

All of this is going on NOW, and I'm commenting on it now. I've never hidden the FACT (don't let that word scare you, sparky, hang in there) that I've seen him as lying s**t for over 3 decades, and I don't understand why so many people revel in him getting to skirt/avoid laws and punishments that "normies" get years in jail, for. It's bone-deep hypocrisy from the same screaming goons that were fapping themselves blind every time Rush Limbaugh or Trey Gowdy insisted that they've "got the Clintons, this time".

The same people that hate the lying, law-breaking, oval-office staining Clintons are cheering (though, cracks are forming in the fan club) for all of the legal/Constitutional/ethical disasters the traitor-in-chief commits shamelessly and maybe daily; this is pretty disgusting hypocrisy. If you can't walk your talk, shut the f*ck up. That used to be a basic rule of manhood, kinda like admitting mistakes...something our assclown prez avoids at all costs.

This administration, as I said before, has a slew of new s**t to talk about all day, essentially every day. Meanwhile, Sleepy Joe and Heels Up have done...what, 1 interview each this year?

Meanwhile, the orange stain, Vip's Big Billionaire Boy, and their cronies are spreading their s**t in actual legislations and actions all through each day. Do you think that's, maybe, exponentially more pertinent to the present conversations? The dems LOST, everyone knows Fauci's a sh*t, and all of that was figured out early last holiday season. Welcome to 2025, maybe no one told you it's a new year?

Quit assigning your bulls**t to me. Yeah, I'm pissed that we're a country that ADMITS ITS MISTAKE, the courts say "fix it", and we suddenly we can't produce a document and a plane ticket to our EMPLOYEE. I'm disgusted that the law, checks, and balances are waved off by a career con man, felon, and sexual assaulter...and people actually cheer for that, claiming to love this country. That's a complete contradiction, at least to functional people.

If this country doesn't care about law, about rights, about the futures of its regular citizens, and about actually walking its talk...how's any of that "great", redcaps?

you refer to another member here one more time in a disparaging way and it will the last words you type on this board.  calling somebody garbage is about as blatant disrespect as you can get and you are done doing so.  dont bother replying back or trying to defend you words as I wont be having it.  grow up or get out.

[badgervike]

Yep, you're still lying garbage. You say I'm "crying" for an immigrant, I point out that due process and more is stepped on by this treasonous administration...and its straight-up traitors in the orange sycophant club!

Once again, was letting more than 12 million people in the Country..without proper paperwork and proper vetting and without proper follow up to check in, be financially independent, etc. following due process?  So...you bring all these people in without following any of our required "process" but it's treasonous to deport them?  Got it.  Deporting illegal immigrants is treasonous now.

You ask why I don't pound my keyboard about the previous immigration issues, and I DID...repeatedly, especially when I was still in New Mexico. I've also pointed this out to you, directly, but you ignore it/cherry pick past it over and over again. I've called out both Biden and Harris, particularly after the latter was our "border czar"...but, again, you'll likely "forget" this again when you make the same bulls**t claims in a week or so. No matter how many times I called out "sleepy Joe" as a "vacuous waste" and/or some variations on "heels up Harris" and their disasters...you act like I was writing them into Nobel consideration. Quit lying, we have a president for that!

I have addressed it, I explain it, you re-muddle your accusatory bulls**t and ignore everything I've said. You're actually pushing dangerously high in the "agenda over intellect" rankings.

But, what YOU skip with dogged determination: the prez you defend (despite "not really liking him, but...") creates constant issues, sometimes several per day, and has the world reeling in various levels of trade wars, utter disrespect and/or threats to their sovereignty, laws being ignored/broken constantly by the prez, by DOGE...and that disaster has shrunk its highly-dramatic targets massively while overstepping and making huge errors with Americans careers/lives...

...while, y'know, shoring up those contracts and getting those pesky investigating agencies mothballed.

All of this is going on NOW, and I'm commenting on it now. I've never hidden the FACT (don't let that word scare you, sparky, hang in there) that I've seen him as lying s**t for over 3 decades, and I don't understand why so many people revel in him getting to skirt/avoid laws and punishments that "normies" get years in jail, for. It's bone-deep hypocrisy from the same screaming goons that were fapping themselves blind every time Rush Limbaugh or Trey Gowdy insisted that they've "got the Clintons, this time".

The same people that hate the lying, law-breaking, oval-office staining Clintons are cheering (though, cracks are forming in the fan club) for all of the legal/Constitutional/ethical disasters the traitor-in-chief commits shamelessly and maybe daily; this is pretty disgusting hypocrisy. If you can't walk your talk, shut the f*ck up. That used to be a basic rule of manhood, kinda like admitting mistakes...something our assclown prez avoids at all costs.

This administration, as I said before, has a slew of new s**t to talk about all day, essentially every day. Meanwhile, Sleepy Joe and Heels Up have done...what, 1 interview each this year?

Meanwhile, the orange stain, Vip's Big Billionaire Boy, and their cronies are spreading their s**t in actual legislations and actions all through each day. Do you think that's, maybe, exponentially more pertinent to the present conversations? The dems LOST, everyone knows Fauci's a sh*t, and all of that was figured out early last holiday season. Welcome to 2025, maybe no one told you it's a new year?

Quit assigning your bulls**t to me. Yeah, I'm pissed that we're a country that ADMITS ITS MISTAKE, the courts say "fix it", and we suddenly we can't produce a document and a plane ticket to our EMPLOYEE. I'm disgusted that the law, checks, and balances are waved off by a career con man, felon, and sexual assaulter...and people actually cheer for that, claiming to love this country. That's a complete contradiction, at least to functional people.

The Admin said they made an Administrative error.  They didn't go into what it was.  They have produced evidence of his gang affiliation as well as evidence of his accused crimes.  He was already approved for deportation in 2019 to anywhere but El Salvador because of potential gang retaliation.  The protective deportation reasoning disappeared when they defined MS13 as a terrorist organization.  The good news is the other gang has dissolved and he gets to hang out with his homeboys now.

Wasn't quite sure who you were referring to as our employee.  The Court ruling was that the US should "facilitate his return".  If the El Salvadoran government won't send their citizen back..not sure what we can and should do.  Also, he already has approval to be deported to another Country.  Should we send him to Venezuela instead.  Regardless, he'll never live in the US again.   If you were referring to the El Salvadoran President as "our employee" (because we are paying aid to El Salvador to house these people)..does the same apply to other countries that we pay aid to, or house bases at, or... are they really just our employees?

I notice you love, love, love the whole Felon title.  Tell the truth Z.  You actually think that conviction will stand through the appeal process?  Not a chance in hell if it has to go to the Supreme Court.  What was the crime again?  You have a judge with a clear conflict...a jury that included people that said on their questionnaires they would find Trump guilty no matter the evidence.  In a city that voted 80% Democratic, everybody on the jury had a conflict(the Defense can only disqualify so many..and the Judge didn't disallow those with clear issues).  Anybody with independent thought knows this was a crime/conviction that would only apply to one person.  I get it, you guys hate him so much he doesn't deserve fairness.  Kind of takes the upper hand on the integrity away.

And while I'm at it, you actually believe that woman was sexually assaulted in a busy department store dressing room and only came forward all these years later when .  I believe it as much as I believe the Kavanaugh accuser with her two front doors.  I know, it's just fun to say...just like talking about the Russian pee tape.

If this country doesn't care about law, about rights, about the futures of its regular citizens, and about actually walking its talk...how's any of that "great", redcaps?  
12 million plus illegal immigrants entered the Country under Biden and many were admitted without following the law.  Seems a little hypocritical to me to call out those that want to do something about it.  It shouldn't have happened in the first place and shouldn't have to happen now.  

Here's the latest from today.  He was pulled over in 2022 with 8 hispanic individuals in the car in Missouri enroute from Houston to Maryland.  All passengers gave the same address in Maryland.  None of them had luggage.  He said he was down there for a construction job (with no luggage).  Trooper suspected trafficking...but since we weren't dealing with that at the time...let him go with a ticket for suspended license. 

[Zanary]

OK, you LOVE LOVE LOVE repeating 12 million illegals under Biden, and I ADDRESSED ADDRESSED ADDRESSED that in...what, at least half a dozen posts, now?

BIDEN ISN'T STILL IN OFFICE. QUIT FAPPING TO DOOMSCROLLINIG FOR YESTERDAY'S NEWS.

Given that our president is a philanderer (sorry, that one has been obvious for decades), has had 16 women (on record) accuse him of various levels of sexual assault, and he's a pretty shameless misogynist...well, sparky, I believe them ahead of him and/or his enablers all day long. Are some lying? Very possibly. Trump, however, lies CONSTANTLY.

But, as I pointed out (and you ignored/avoided, again/still), his fan club doesn't take issue with the absolute s**t value of his word. That's really sick behavior, especially when combined with stuttering bibble-babble from the same fan club over tariffs OOPS, pauses, OOPS, whining because any other country would even CONSIDER reprisals...

...the mind reels. Y'all should just admit that you hate this country, want an emperor, and a ruling class exempt from all consequences.

[Zanary]

The orange stain hates accuracy and honesty, just like his fan club!

No, kids, the "$2 billion/day" isn't right, either...and according to a couple other articles, the entire equation uses wrong values.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-sa...ows-2025-4

"The Treasury Department's daily deposit totals for "Customs and Certain Excise Taxes" reported over the seven weekdays since April 5 averages out to $227 million per day. "

So, the DOGE targets are proving to be complete bulls**t, the tariff amounts are similarly WILDLY out of line...and, again, people voted for a known liar who's lying right at all of us.

Yep, we told you. Often.

[Waterboy]

I don’t think the Chinese have many cards left to play. The rare earth threat isn’t as scary as some make it out to be. Other countries who bypass environmental concerns can be up and running in short order. It isn’t scarcity of these materials, it’s the cost and pollution factors that come with mining and refining them. China flooding other markets is certainly one of their thoughts, but not likely to succeed.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/fox-news-wor...perts-warn

[Zanary]

Happy Easter, Everyone!

Oh, but widespread polls show the majority NOT liking the very economy the orange stain was elected to "fix":

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-ec...ll-2061861

"This poll revealed that a third (33 percent) said they expect the economy to be in recession next year. However, only 4 percent fewer (29 percent) said they think it will be booming or growing.

And 53 percent said the economy is getting worse, while 28 percent said it is getting better and 19 percent said it is staying about the same."

I know it's been pretty disastrous for the automotive/truck fields I'm still attached to, as the inconsistencies with the supply sources/pricing is genuinely maddening.

[Zanary]

Dow down over 700, S&P and NASDAQ dropping as well, this morning.

Hopefully, those tariffed penguins will make a deal to stop all the bleeding!

[badgervike]

OK, you LOVE LOVE LOVE repeating 12 million illegals under Biden, and I ADDRESSED ADDRESSED ADDRESSED that in...what, at least half a dozen posts, now?

BIDEN ISN'T STILL IN OFFICE. QUIT FAPPING TO DOOMSCROLLINIG FOR YESTERDAY'S NEWS.

Given that our president is a philanderer (sorry, that one has been obvious for decades), has had 16 women (on record) accuse him of various levels of sexual assault, and he's a pretty shameless misogynist...well, sparky, I believe them ahead of him and/or his enablers all day long. Are some lying? Very possibly. Trump, however, lies CONSTANTLY.

But, as I pointed out (and you ignored/avoided, again/still), his fan club doesn't take issue with the absolute s**t value of his word. That's really sick behavior, especially when combined with stuttering bibble-babble from the same fan club over tariffs OOPS, pauses, OOPS, whining because any other country would even CONSIDER reprisals...

...the mind reels. Y'all should just admit that you hate this country, want an emperor, and a ruling class exempt from all consequences.

ooh.  All caps.  How fun!  Try to pay attention.  Yes...I realize that Biden is out of office...but those 12 million plus illegal immigrants are still here...mostly unvetted and on the government dole.  It's really Biden's gift that keeps on giving.