An Absurd Idea

[MaroonBells]

I wouldn't call him a friend, but I know him. I've been in fantasy leagues with him. Aaron Schatz is a very smart guy. Has a degree in economics from Brown University. He founded Football Outsiders and DVOA, which every NFL team uses. But this is just BATSHIT. You wanna bring back Sam, I'm good. You wanna give him a 2-year deal? I'm still good. But ya don't feckin trade the kid! 

[JustInTime]

Just saw this as well. Pretty absurd, but gimme a minute.

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[MAD GAINZ]

Derek Carr once had a season with 28 TD passes and 6 INTs... went 12-3 as a starter and shit the bed in his first playoff game. Anyone banging down the door to bring in Derek Carr long term? Cuz that's what we'll have with Darnold. A QB who puts up good numbers, but is fundamentally flawed enough to not be able to win consistently against good teams in the playoffs.

No guarantees JJ McCarthy will, but I'd rather give him a chance to fail than sign up for a stats QB that can't play his best when it matters most.

[MaroonBells]

Just saw this as well. Pretty absurd, but gimme a minute.

OK, I'll play devil's advocate. We can probably get a king's ransom for McCarthy. Likely a very high 1st rounder this year and also be able to flesh out the rest of our draft. 

And since Sam would likely take under market to stay with the Vikings, we can still probably build a pretty good surround with the added picks and the cap space we have. Last year we added a damn good free agency class with only $17M in cap space. Even if you factor in Sam's hit, we'd probably have twice that this year. We won 14 games last year. Add an IOL or two, sign a free agent corner, put Mason Graham and Ashton Jeanty on the team and lace 'em up. 

(I can see Sticky reading this, having his 3rd pint at the Biergarten, and just SEEETHING. lol. Sorry man, just playing devil's advocate. The thought of trading JJ makes me sick inside).

[comet52]

OK, I'll play devil's advocate. We can probably get a king's ransom for McCarthy. Likely a very high 1st rounder this year and also be able to flesh out the rest of our draft. 

And since Sam would likely take under market to stay with the Vikings, we can still probably build a pretty good surround with the added picks and the cap space we have. Last year we added a damn good free agency class with only $17M in cap space. Even if you factor in Sam's hit, we'd probably have twice that this year. We won 14 games last year. Add an IOL or two, sign a free agent corner, put Mason Graham and Ashton Jeanty on the team and lace 'em up. 

(I can see Sticky reading this, having his 3rd pint at the Biergarten, and just SEEETHING. lol. Sorry man, just playing devil's advocate. The thought of trading JJ makes me sick inside).

I don't think Sticky or anyone for that matter would get super worked-up about a scenario that will never happen. JJM is going to be leading this team come fall.

[JustInTime]

So, here’s the question: Do you think KOC has already maxed out Darnold? Or do you think he can get him over the hump? 

Or

Do you want to see what he can do with McCarthy?

   

So, I’ve completely rebuilt the CB room, rebuilt, 2/3 of the interior with Gs that could rival the Eagles or at least KC. I’ve added an excellent iDL. A starting RB and a young QB to mentor(McCord got cut off) I’ve still got money to spend on 1 premium FA. 

I’ll still probably order a McCarthy whiteout jersey, but I think I’d do this if I could get SEVEN STARTERS out of a draft plus 2 Day 2 picks next year. Yeah, I’d definitely do this and if it works, Howie Roseman is calling me for advice.

[purplefaithful]

KOC made Dobbs look decent for a few games and Darnold good++ for 16...

I am excited to see what he can do with a QB that has the ceiling/intangibles of a McCarthy.

I'm good with it, do what we can to build a better surround in FA/draft around the kid and go. Probably wont see 14 wins in 25, but I'd be wearing shades a lot thinking the future is pretty bright.

[Zanary]

I can't go there. Granted, we've yet to see JJM beyond a tiny bit of preseason and practice footage, but he's getting an almost ideal situation: forced to watch/learn/absorb the system and the culture at work right in front of him as he heals. Nothing replaces reps, it's true, but he had all the positives and negatives from a very exciting season as an involved spectator. This should bring his mental game to an impressive place while his physical game catches up.

I was very happy for Sam, and if he gets the big $$ in Vegas or wherever, I'll still be happy for him. That said, my faith in his processing/vision is pretty shattered at this point, and while our IOL has a huge amount of blame, Sam quit rising to the occasions.

Get a good veteran QB for insurance/guidance, and let's FINALLY develop a franchise QB for a change...!

[MAD GAINZ]

So, here’s the question: Do you think KOC has already maxed out Darnold? Or do you think he can get him over the hump? 

Or

Do you want to see what he can do with McCarthy?



So, I’ve completely rebuilt the CB room, rebuilt, 2/3 of the interior with Gs that could rival the Eagles or at least KC. I’ve added an excellent iDL. A starting RB and a young QB to mentor(McCord got cut off) I’ve still got money to spend on 1 premium FA. 

I’ll still probably order a McCarthy whiteout jersey, but I think I’d do this if I could get SEVEN STARTERS out of a draft plus 2 Day 2 picks next year. Yeah, I’d definitely do this and if it works, Howie Roseman is calling me for advice.

7 starters...  Doubtful.  If KOC thinks JJ McCarthy is a franchise QB (he does), there aren't enough picks to justify trading him.

[JustInTime]

7 starters...  Doubtful.  If KOC thinks JJ McCarthy is a franchise QB (he does), there aren't enough picks to justify trading him.

Ok, 7 is strong but in no way farfetched:

1. Barron-CB competition: Blackmon, Nudie, Wright, Reddy Steward, Ambry Thomas, Even if you sign Reed, Barron still starts.

2. Harmon-4i competition: Bullard, LDR, something called Travis Bell. I like the chances he starts.

3. Booker-LG competition: Brandel, something called Henry Byrd. After KOC basically called out the iOL after the playoff loss, I like his chance to start.

4. Porter-CB competition: See 1

5. Emmanwori-Nickel competition: Also See 1. I project him as the big nickel/LB hybrid that BFlo is going to use in a similar fashion to Mettellus. This might be a stretch. But maybe Kahlef Hailassie beats him out.

6. Rutledge-RG competition: Ingram, Jurgens, Byrd. Do I have to go any further?

7. JCM-RB competition: Chandler, Zaiver Scott. Let's say for arguments sake they re-sign Jones. Is he starting all 17 games?

Doubtful? The whole premise has about a .00001 chance of playing out. But, if it were or something similar were to happen, I bet we'd pull multiple starters with a potential haul from JJM.

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I’m noticing no matter how I reply to a thread, the post gets imbedded to my previous reply. Defect or undocumented feature?