Pardons

[Zanary]

So..now your issue is shuttering a Department that you didn't even know existed until yesterday and didn't know what they do.  The OFFCP didn't have wide ranging responsibilities...they were almost exclusively targeted at DEI since Obama created the organization by Executive Order in 2009.  Since we don't have DEI any more in the Federal Government, the remaining functions of minority participation can be folded back into the Department of Labor or GSA.  The Department is roughly 450 employees btw.

For the rest of it Z, I just find it amusing that you rail against others on this board repeatedly for lying and in this thread express your dislike of Trump because of his lying...while continuing to promote a demonstrably untrue position on the role of the OFFCP.  

Again, for DOGE's work, I find it immoral the debt we have accrued and will leave to our children unless something drastic is done.  The interest on the debt alone exceeds to Defense budget.  We're effectively just able to make interest payments on the National Credit Card without paying down any principal.  Every previous generation left their children in a better place.  My generation...not so much.  It's shameful.

Ah, yes...because your argument is that "I didn't know they existed".

Oh, holy s**t, you can't be honest, can you? You have to actually fictionalize my points and even my knowledge to anchor your point...and you don't know me, whatsoever, so you're choosing a truly s**t position. That's pathetic. I also already made the point that Musk's seeming immunity to further probes do to his position is a huge conflict of interest, but you're sticking to the tiny view. Again, pathetic.

I'm no fan of debt or bloated government, but doing a job correctly with precision instead of making waves and headlines with lazy, irresponsible stupidity...well, that should be an obvious problem. I'm all for cutting pork and smaller government...I spent years genuinely campaigning for it, before the LP went South...but this is grandstanding and not giving two f***s who catches the lies. How can anyone support that?

Well, OK, functional people can't. That's kinda the whole explanation.

[badgervike]

Ah, yes...because your argument is that "I didn't know they existed".

Oh, holy s**t, you can't be honest, can you? You have to actually fictionalize my points and even my knowledge to anchor your point...and you don't know me, whatsoever, so you're choosing a truly s**t position. That's pathetic. I also already made the point that Musk's seeming immunity to further probes do to his position is a huge conflict of interest, but you're sticking to the tiny view. Again, pathetic.

I'm no fan of debt or bloated government, but doing a job correctly with precision instead of making waves and headlines with lazy, irresponsible stupidity...well, that should be an obvious problem. I'm all for cutting pork and smaller government...I spent years genuinely campaigning for it, before the LP went South...but this is grandstanding and not giving two f***s who catches the lies. How can anyone support that?

Well, OK, functional people can't. That's kinda the whole explanation.

I was actually giving you the benefit of the doubt before I started to haul off and call you a liar like you do all the time on this board.  You posted an article that conflated the work of two different government departments that HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH EACH OTHER.  The article referred to a racial discrimination/harassment suit that had been filed by by filed by one (the EEOC) and than jumped to the elimination of another department that has nothing to do with this litigation.  I pointed out that they had nothing to do with each other and you doubled down with yet another clearly partisan piece basically jumping once again from the harassment lawsuit and immediately pivoting to the other organization (OFFCP).  You kept making the exact same point.  So...given the organization that was being eliminated has NOTHING to do with the EEOC suit against Tesla, I can make one of two assumptions.  1) You don't know what the OFFCP does..or 2) You know the OFFCP has nothing with the harassment lawsuit and potential follow-up...but you choose to repeatedly post known false information so that you could go on your daily Orange Boi rant.  If you do know what the OFFCP does, you know that those articles were partisan nonsense.  If so, that makes you a liar.

In terms of DOGE, it really has to be this way.  The political parties don't have the courage to deal with the spending issue as well as the upcoming SS insolvency if spending isn't addressed.

[Zanary]

Has to be...dishonest and scapegoating?

The latest update I saw on the existing investigation is that the department is now run by one of "their" people, so I imagine those racism claims will be grouped with all things DEI, which are being eliminated willy-nilly.

The headlines are stupendous, and I stick to centrist sources...though, orange boi has declared Reuters to be "radical", now. Maybe for the BS renaming of the Gulf? Maybe for the sheer number of the changes that are reportedly illegal, and would have to go through congress? Maybe for getting a womanizing alcoholic as SecDef and a 5-star whackadoodle in charge of America's health?

There's NO END of new s*** material, and procedures, checks and balances, and accountability are apparently no longer part of our governance.

I guess y'all wanted that oligarchy really badly.....

[Zanary]

Hey, on the topic of "pardons", and not just Elon...!

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/top-u-s-pros...e-766412d4

Even a Trump appointee won't play into this obvious power abuse. Nice to see ethics from someone in that pile.

Then again, Musk lied...and orange boi lied...and didn't even know which arm of Reuters they were lying about!

Who enables this clown show, again? For fuggsakes, WHY?

(Note: the link in question has the best grouping of the X posts involved. It's Elon's site, it HAS to be real...right? )

Oh, but hey...if judges disagree, then need impeaching, right? That's not OLIGARCHY-ISH AT ALL, right?

"They can only be impeached by the U.S. House of Representatives for treason, bribery and other high crimes and misdemeanors and must be convicted by the Senate to be removed.
Only 15 judges have ever been impeached, and only eight have been convicted by the Senate, most recently in 2010."

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-a...025-02-12/

[badgervike]

The Trump "appointee" was appointed 3 weeks ago until a successor could be confirmed. The Senate is a little backlogged right now on the Cabinet confirmations let alone other appointments. With Patel scheduled for a vote next week, some of these permanent appointees will get placed. She would have been likely replaced in the next few weeks as Trump's appointee has previously gone through the confirmation process on a fairly bipartisan basis. By the way, since the Clinton Admin, it's the norm for Prosecutors to tender their resignations prior to a new Admin taking over. It's also pretty common to be asked to wrap up investigations prior to the new Prosecutor and teams taking over. There is clearly bad blood and the Manhattan Federal Prosecutors office which assisted in many of the many investigations into Trump.

But sure...this is all about protecting the Democratic Mayor of New York.

[Zanary]

The Trump "appointee" was appointed 3 weeks ago until a successor could be confirmed.  The Senate is a little backlogged right now on the Cabinet confirmations let alone other appointments.  With Patel scheduled for a vote next week, some of these permanent appointees will get placed. She would have been likely replaced in the next few weeks as Trump's appointee has previously gone through the confirmation process on a fairly bipartisan basis.  By the way, since the Clinton Admin, it's the norm for Prosecutors to tender their resignations prior to a new Admin taking over.  It's also pretty common to be asked to wrap up investigations prior to the new Prosecutor and teams taking over.  There is clearly bad blood and the Manhattan Federal Prosecutors office which assisted in many of the many investigations into Trump. 

But sure...this is all about protecting the Democratic Mayor of New York.

...HAR!

With calls for judges to be impeached for disagreeing with orange boi, agents involved in his investigation fired, and a cast of complete junk sycophants and utter disasters as appointees this time around...yeah, there's obviously bad, even poisoned, blood. The obvious revenge campaign is wildly unpresidential, unprofessional, and should be unworthy of anyone near power in this country.

I think that'll get more and more clear by the day.

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Damn, maybe by the hour!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mollybohann...s-charges/

"A seventh prosecutor resigned from the Department of Justice over its push to drop New York City Mayor Eric Adams’ corruption charges Friday, writing only a “fool” or a “coward” would comply with the move—widening the upheaval over the Adams charges, which critics say the DOJ wants to drop in exchange for Adams’ help with immigration enforcement."

Well, plenty of both are getting hoarse from screaming 'LA LA LA LA LA' with fingers firmly in ears as the reek of emperor orange's s**t gets stronger....