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(02-04-2025, 05:18 PM)medaille Wrote: Nobody was signing Jones midseason to be their starter. Nobody has starter money tucked away to drop on a midseason change at starting QB. What he did at the end of this past season and what he'll do going forward are completely different things. Everyone was offering him around the same amount of money.
The Vikings will have a hard time offering him one year $10M if someone is offering him 3 years, $60M, but maybe he thinks he'll be able to flip it into a 3 years $100M by waiting a year?
The Raiders and 49ers when Purdy went down. He could have played right away last season is what I am saying. He chose not to and came here to play under KOC.
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(02-04-2025, 04:16 PM)medaille Wrote: Sounds like Damage Control ![Wink Wink](https://vikefans.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.png)
Literally. ![Wink Wink](https://vikefans.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.png)
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Very interesting quote here from Jefferson:
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Justin Jefferson seems to make the plea that he wants Sam Darnold back and even says “I feel like we’re gonna bring Sam back”.
Jefferson does note @Vikings rookie QB J.J. McCarthy will get “his shot” at some point because he’s a 1st-round pick.
JMO, I don't think Jefferson would say this unless he was privy to some internal insight.
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Justin Jefferson said he wanted Kirk back too and the Vikings moved on. I think JJ is just trying to support the current starting QB... we'll see what happens.
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(8 hours ago)StickierBuns Wrote: Very interesting quote here from Jefferson:
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Justin Jefferson seems to make the plea that he wants Sam Darnold back and even says “I feel like we’re gonna bring Sam back”.
Jefferson does note @Vikings rookie QB J.J. McCarthy will get “his shot” at some point because he’s a 1st-round pick.
JMO, I don't think Jefferson would say this unless he was privy to some internal insight.
One interesting thing brought up by the cap expert I posted in another thread is that "technically" NFL teams are not supposed to tag players they don't intend to sign long term. But that it happens all the time and it's never enforced. Happened last year with the Chiefs CB Sneed. It also happened with Matt Cassell when the Pats tagged him and traded him to the Chiefs for a 2nd round pick years ago.
So I think this could just be the Vikings saying the things they're supposed to: "We want Sam back. We're going to tag him and we look forward to another great season with Sam as our QB. But oh by the way, if you're really desperate for a QB, what are willing to do to change our minds?"
There was 23 days between the Cassell tag and the trade. 25 days between the Sneed tag and the trade. That's a good amount of time to let the seed germinate.
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(8 hours ago)StickierBuns Wrote: Very interesting quote here from Jefferson:
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Justin Jefferson seems to make the plea that he wants Sam Darnold back and even says “I feel like we’re gonna bring Sam back”.
Jefferson does note @Vikings rookie QB J.J. McCarthy will get “his shot” at some point because he’s a 1st-round pick.
JMO, I don't think Jefferson would say this unless he was privy to some internal insight.
He was Kirks number one fan as well. Went as far as to say, he doesn't want to play with anyone else. I don't take this as much of anything.
You said something that caught my attention however, you said he was privy to some internal insight... Of course he is, he is Justin Jefferson. Let me ask you this, does the NFL listen if a player like Ed Ingram comes out and says something? No, teams won't even open the article. If Justin Jefferson, the best WR in the NFL, says something, I am going to guess that gets sent to people's phones and texts are sent out to GM and coaches, because Jets said something, and the NFL wants to know what he said. If Jefferson says something of this magnitude, does that raise or lower the trade value of teams that may be interested in wanting him? Will that make interested teams more or less eager to get him? If Jefferson says that... teams will be more eager to find a way to get Darnold. Not because teams will think Darnold is that great, but because now you think the chances are going down for the Vikings to let him go. It's like you try and get your 4 year old kid to eat his dinner and he refuses, you take it away and say nope, you don't get to eat now! You will watch that 4 year old eat his dinner and is happy about it.
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(8 hours ago)StickierBuns Wrote: Very interesting quote here from Jefferson:
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Justin Jefferson seems to make the plea that he wants Sam Darnold back and even says “I feel like we’re gonna bring Sam back”.
Jefferson does note @Vikings rookie QB J.J. McCarthy will get “his shot” at some point because he’s a 1st-round pick.
JMO, I don't think Jefferson would say this unless he was privy to some internal insight.
Are you suggesting that Jets is leaking the Vikings plans? How long do you think it will take before they take away his social media accounts?
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I dont read much into what JJ is saying...I hear it as he's just speaking his mind vs any inside info being leaked.
I'd love to see the Vikings try the tag/trade, but we'll just have to wait and see if the mkt develops for it.
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#Vikings WR Justin Jefferson on what he hopes happens at the QB position this offseason:
“Honestly I have the same answer (as last year), it doesn’t really matter who is going to be throwing me the ball. I’m still gonna go out there and perform.”
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(6 hours ago)medaille Wrote: Are you suggesting that Jets is leaking the Vikings plans? How long do you think it will take before they take away his social media accounts?
If he's leaking stuff it's probably at the front office's behest. "Help position us to trade Sam by saying you think we're keeping him."
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