Wonder whats happening with Kwesi?

[medaille]

KOC's contract isn't being disclosed until after Kwesi's contract is figured out. I have to imagine he's back, but at a fraction of the value KOC got. KOC earned a bunch. Kwesi, I think it's hard to put him in the upper tier. We had good FA last time around, but not so much on the drafts. He's pretty much done a good job keeping us competitive while rebuilding.

[Still Hurtn]

Free Agents B (including undrafted)
Wins and Losses A
Salary Cap B+
Draft Picks F

It would be interesting to see more behind the scene on how things are working.

His drafting is a head scratcher. Turner for example. Gives up picks for a position that we have a ton of talent at. Flo couldnt seem to figure out how to get him on the field. Also trading within the division on draft day, its weird

[supafreak84]

It's no secret that I was not a fan of the Vikings hiring Kwesi. I'm not a believer in analytics being your primary background in the game of football when you are a GM. Zero scouting or personnel background and just limited overall experience. His first draft turned out to be the train wreck I said it was going to be and his drafts since then have been a mixed bag. His legacy going forward is going to be tied to what kind of players McCarthy and Dallas Turner turn out to be. He has been better in free agency where he can better evaluate known quantities and that's his wheelhouse. That's fine, but to me general managers earn their money in the draft identifying talent and replenishing the lifeblood of a organization. Three drafts in and we have a lot of misses and a lot of "yet to be determined." The team is on a good trajectory and you dont want to derail that, but you also don't want to make a mistake and re-up someone that hasn't proven he can identify draft talent. I think the smart move is to let it ride with Kwesi and see how this upcoming season plays out. That's not normally how it goes when you extend the head coach and not the general manager, but I think in this case that would be the prudent way you handle this.

[Canthony]

Kwesi did have a good FA in 2024. How much of that was Flores though? They were Flores' players he brought in to fit his exact scheme. To me, it seemed more on the lines that Flores got his wish list that was given to Kwesi. Just my thoughts. I am fine with going up to get Turner. That part doesn't bother me, because I think his talent level is insane, and he started to show that the last quarter of the season.

[purplefaithful]

Kwesi did have a good FA in 2024. How much of that was Flores though? They were Flores' players he brought in to fit his exact scheme. To me, it seemed more on the lines that Flores got his wish list that was given to Kwesi. Just my thoughts. I am fine with going up to get Turner. That part doesn't bother me, because I think his talent level is insane, and he started to show that the last quarter of the season.

A good GM will take input from his coaches and scouts then go acquire talent with the right contract structure to protect the team. Thats exactly what KAM did last FA period. 

So I guess I am of the mindset to give him credit for that vs he had little to do with it. 

Like many have already said, the big pause is drafts. Its not a just a KAM issue though, there is probably something systemically wrong organizationally and/or Grigson and staff are near incompetent.

[Canthony]

A good GM will take input from his coaches and scouts then go acquire talent with the right contract structure to protect the team. Thats exactly what KAM did last FA period. 

So I guess I am of the mindset to give him credit for that vs he had little to do with it. 

The big pause is drafts. Its not a just a KAM issue though, there is probably something systemically wrong and/or Grigson and staff are near incompetent.

He isn't a good GM. Take this with a grain of salt, a good GM would have been present when doing the final 53-man roster in 2024. I have a hard time believing him and KOC have a good working relationship. If they did, I would assume this extension would be final by now. We will see when KOC contract details come out. I have a feeling he will have a ton more say over Kwesi.

[purplefaithful]

He isn't a good GM. Take this with a grain of salt, a good GM would have been present when doing the final 53-man roster in 2024. I have a hard time believing him and KOC have a good working relationship. If they did, I would assume this extension would be final by now. We will see when KOC contract details come out. I have a feeling he will have a ton more say over Kwesi.

Oh I'm not claiming he is. They both seem like pretty eAsy going guys vs Zimm/RS kind of situation. 

But these things are kept from the public until they cant hide it anymore so who knows. 

We'll learn a lot more if/when they strike a deal with KAM. His role and KOC role may very well be evolving and that wouldn't surprise me either.