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#31
(01-24-2025, 12:48 PM)AGRforever Wrote: If code pink crosses the police line at the capitol? Yes.  Snipers should take 'em out.

It's moments like this that I'm glad I don't agree with most anything you've ever expressed.  lol
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#32
(01-24-2025, 11:07 AM)AGRforever Wrote: Come on man.  Be better.  We don't need to name call to make a point and yes, I've done name called plenty myself.  I'm working on it.  Name calling from both sides is just getting exhausting. I deleted Reddit the other day because of how toxic its become.  If it wasn't for family on Facebook I'd do the same with it. 

Jimmy, back on topic.  If there were legitimate people who did not show up to the capitol that day then they didn't belong in jail.  If they followed people into the capitol building they did belong in jail.  Like I said.  They shoulda shot the first 1/2 dozen and it would have all been over.

I dont think its as cut and dry as if you went in you are a criminal when the security guards were holding the doors open for people, if you werent front and center you may have no idea that it was even off limits at that point,  many were likely just following the crowd.  yes the vandals and such deserve to be punished,  but those simply caught  up in the moving crowd that did no harm,  didnt deserve to be held for years, and certainly not shot.

Personally I think the Dems wanted what they got,  I know that there were people there that werent there for a peaceful protest,  but largely I think the drama and exaggerated story line and hype were part of the plan.  They showed the same thing with the 2 dorks in michigan that were goaded into stupidity by a dozen FBI agents and then arrested,  there are some bad actors at work and IMO J6 was part of the play.
Why isn't Chuck Foreman in the Hall of Fame?
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(01-24-2025, 02:21 PM)JimmyinSD Wrote: I dont think its as cut and dry as if you went in you are a criminal when the security guards were holding the doors open for people, if you werent front and center you may have no idea that it was even off limits at that point,  many were likely just following the crowd.  yes the vandals and such deserve to be punished,  but those simply caught  up in the moving crowd that did no harm,  didnt deserve to be held for years, and certainly not shot.

Personally I think the Dems wanted what they got,  I know that there were people there that werent there for a peaceful protest,  but largely I think the drama and exaggerated story line and hype were part of the plan.  They showed the same thing with the 2 dorks in michigan that were goaded into stupidity by a dozen FBI agents and then arrested,  there are some bad actors at work and IMO J6 was part of the play.

Wait, there's a blame pattern!

Trumplestilskin was FOOLED into vaccine mandates, lockdowns, and all of the initial COVID damage. He can't be blamed, he was 'fooled'!

The Jan 6 "protesters" were FOOLED, not bad people! Assaulting cops, storming through the capital calling for the heads of Pence, Pelosi, etc was just...all democrat manipulation!

(coughWHATINCREDIBLEBULLS**Tcough)

(01-24-2025, 11:53 AM)Waterboy Wrote: It doesn't change the fact of how well you articulate your views and the "potential" you have / had.

OK, let me be very clear:

I ignore most of your little snipes at me, partially because I was asked to, and partially because you've shown little capacity for comprehension. If you're gonna keep bringing me back into things, our dialogue is gonna continue...and you're seemingly addicted to the attention.

You don't actually want it. I'm happy to ignore you, try returning the favor.
Wait, we failed to protect our QB in big games, again? 

MAYBE THERE'S A LESSON HERE.
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#34
(01-24-2025, 02:21 PM)JimmyinSD Wrote: I dont think its as cut and dry as if you went in you are a criminal when the security guards were holding the doors open for people, if you werent front and center you may have no idea that it was even off limits at that point,  many were likely just following the crowd.  yes the vandals and such deserve to be punished,  but those simply caught  up in the moving crowd that did no harm,  didnt deserve to be held for years, and certainly not shot.

Personally I think the Dems wanted what they got,  I know that there were people there that werent there for a peaceful protest,  but largely I think the drama and exaggerated story line and hype were part of the plan.  They showed the same thing with the 2 dorks in michigan that were goaded into stupidity by a dozen FBI agents and then arrested,  there are some bad actors at work and IMO J6 was part of the play.

Really?  Unaware?  Dude really?  

https://youtu.be/UgTap_uRbgU?si=Gs_QXUHDM8-PAUH0
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#35
They were completely tricked into gas masks, body armor, and death threats! Golly gosh darn those tricky dems!
Wait, we failed to protect our QB in big games, again? 

MAYBE THERE'S A LESSON HERE.
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(01-24-2025, 07:43 PM)AGRforever Wrote: Really?  Unaware?  Dude really?  

https://youtu.be/UgTap_uRbgU?si=Gs_QXUHDM8-PAUH0

Yes,  do you know that there were an estimated 20 THOUSAND people there that day?  ( US Parks service numbers) You are talking the enitre population of a good size midwest city,  there is no way that most of those people had any idea what was taking place at the front of the assembly.  When the crowd starts moving forward many just follow,  especially when the capitol police are holding open the doors like they are working the Ritz Carlson hotel.

Some were there with malicious intent ( including liberal plants) but most were not criminals,  there were, and are ardent  patriots who felt that their constitutional rights were being trampled upon.
Why isn't Chuck Foreman in the Hall of Fame?
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(01-24-2025, 08:46 PM)JimmyinSD Wrote: Yes,  do you know that there were an estimated 20 THOUSAND people there that day?  ( US Parks service numbers) You are talking the enitre population of a good size midwest city,  there is no way that most of those people had any idea what was taking place at the front of the assembly.  When the crowd starts moving forward many just follow,  especially when the capitol police are holding open the doors like they are working the Ritz Carlson hotel.

Some were there with malicious intent ( including liberal plants) but most were not criminals,  there were, and are ardent  patriots who felt that their constitutional rights were being trampled upon.

You don’t think the twisted metal fences, wreaked security checkpoints and broken glass/windows would have been a major clue?  There were 1500ish arrests. If 20k is accurate you had a 7.5% of getting arrested. Or 92.5% chance of not getting lured into fighting cops, smashing glass and putting your feet up on senators desk. 

People felt their rights were trampled?  Come on Jimmy. Take off the red goggles. What about the cops that were actually trampled. Life altering injuries.  The people who crossed the police line lost their rights.
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#38
There'a a bunch of actual data in here, from a site that's actually rated low on bias...unlike the misinformation factories so commonly cited around here.

If orange boi is needing and actual definition of "hostages", he should phone hamas...oops, maybe page...ummm...yeah, get word to them, somehow.

https://www.factcheck.org/2025/01/trump-...formation/
Wait, we failed to protect our QB in big games, again? 

MAYBE THERE'S A LESSON HERE.
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#39
(01-25-2025, 10:48 AM)Zanary Wrote: There'a a bunch of actual data in here, from a site that's actually rated low on bias...unlike the misinformation factories so commonly cited around here.

If orange boi is needing and actual definition of "hostages", he should phone hamas...oops, maybe page...ummm...yeah, get word to them, somehow.

https://www.factcheck.org/2025/01/trump-...formation/

False…. 

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/fac...media-bias

And this site has been determined to lean left itself..
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#40
(01-25-2025, 01:29 PM)Waterboy Wrote: False…. 

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/fac...media-bias

And this site has been determined to lean left itself..

*yawn*
"AllSides was launched to the public in September 2012.[2][3] After working as a Republican political operative in the 1980s[4][5] in the southern United States (including for George H. W. Bush, Mitch McConnell and the Republican National Committee),[6] John Gable worked at internet firms in Silicon Valley where he recruited software developer Scott McDonald to help him launch AllSides and become his CTO.[4][7] Gable continues to identify as a Republican."

Literally, 5 second search.
Wait, we failed to protect our QB in big games, again? 

MAYBE THERE'S A LESSON HERE.
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