CEO of UnitedHealthcare murdered this morning in Manhattan

[Waterboy]

yep,  I am the lunatic.   you have 2nd hand knowledge from a family member saying he was a good guy... you dont see any bias in a second hand account from a family member?  I am sure Faucis family thinks he is a wonderful human as well.  I am sure Fauci has made charitable acts and donations over the years,  but it doesnt change the monster that we know he actually is...just because some family member would back his lies.

the facts are his company has been defrauding its customers for a long time,  plenty of documented cases out there on this, but if you think a family members word is more solid and unbiased than million of cases presented from countless sources... well then I dont think we need to further this discussion.

To be clear, I haven't had one word with the family member since the murder.  I'm saying that murder is wrong on moral grounds here, not anything I've heard from a family member.

The reason I use the word "lunatic" is because it takes a lunatic to justify murder, which you stop just short of doing.  And I say you're uninformed because you really don't know if the guy supported the views that you're assuming he did.  You assert that you "know" he's a monster.  It's apparent that you don't, and that you're just a person with an opinion, much like me.   I think that you're far too locked into that opinion given the fact that you have no inside info, and that the reporting on this is far short of comprehensive.  He may have been the guy totally responsible for shooting down claims, or a guy that was in the middle of addressing why United Health Care claim denials nearly doubled the industry average.  Maybe UHC had a far better system for investigating claims, provided better coverage for those that they covered, and at a lower price.   I don't know any of these to be true, but I have a sneaking suspicion that you don't either. 

I don't care what the truth is behind this matter.  I do know it's a dangerous and stupid view to somehow justify murder in a case such as this, where it's obvious that if one is guilty many more are as well.  And I'm guessing that 90% of the people posting here have their own cases of actions that others could justify them being offed as well.  I've fired people before.  There have been many cases of people who were fired shooting their manager.  I bet they felt justified too.

[JimmyinSD]

To be clear, I haven't had one word with the family member since the murder.  I'm saying that murder is wrong on moral grounds here, not anything I've heard from a family member.

The reason I use the word "lunatic" is because it takes a lunatic to justify murder, which you stop just short of doing.  And I say you're uninformed because you really don't know if the guy supported the views that you're assuming he did.  You assert that you "know" he's a monster.  It's apparent that you don't, and that you're just a person with an opinion, much like me.   I think that you're far too locked into that opinion given the fact that you have no inside info, and that the reporting on this is far short of comprehensive.  He may have been the guy totally responsible for shooting down claims, or a guy that was in the middle of addressing why United Health Care claim denials nearly doubled the industry average.  Maybe UHC had a far better system for investigating claims, provided better coverage for those that they covered, and at a lower price.   I don't know any of these to be true, but I have a sneaking suspicion that you don't either. 

I don't care what the truth is behind this matter.  I do know it's a dangerous and stupid view to somehow justify murder in a case such as this, where it's obvious that if one is guilty many more are as well.  And I'm guessing that 90% of the people posting here have their own cases of actions that others could justify them being offed as well.  I've fired people before.  There have been many cases of people who were fired shooting their manager.  I bet they felt justified too.

NOPE,  they were just crazy.

and no I dont recall you making some claim to the aspect of murder is wrong,  you have been staunchly behind the "friend of a family member who says he was a good guy " position since the onset from what I have read.  I have also repeatedly asserted that I didnt condone the actions,  but understood the response and with the overwhelming evidence of that company's policies and actions... I really dont feel much sympathy for the victim, only his family.  If that makes me a monster or lunatic in your eyes,  I am ok with that.  just as I am OK with it when bad things happen to bad people,  as it apparently has in this case.

If I were on the jury deciding the fate of the shooter,  I find him guilty with what we currently know,  the law is the law,  he made an adult decision and should suffer the adult consequences,  but I wouldnt treat him like he killed a valuable member of society either.

[purplefaithful]

Whether or not someone wants to have sorrow regarding the guy murdered is besides the point.

Mangioni is an idealogical killer...There is no justification for the murder he allegedly committed nor should there be tolerance regarding it.

He will and should get prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

Whats mind blowing now are now the idiots threatening the Pennsylvania PD, The Detectives working the case, The McDonalds employees in Altoona etc...wTF is wrong some people?

[Waterboy]

NOPE,  they were just crazy.

and no I dont recall you making some claim to the aspect of murder is wrong,  you have been staunchly behind the "friend of a family member who says he was a good guy " position since the onset from what I have read.  I have also repeatedly asserted that I didnt condone the actions,  but understood the response and with the overwhelming evidence of that company's policies and actions... I really dont feel much sympathy for the victim, only his family.  If that makes me a monster or lunatic in your eyes,  I am ok with that.  just as I am OK with it when bad things happen to bad people,  as it apparently has in this case.

If I were on the jury deciding the fate of the shooter,  I find him guilty with what we currently know,  the law is the law,  he made an adult decision and should suffer the adult consequences,  but I wouldnt treat him like he killed a valuable member of society either.

I have argued to some degree that what I know of the family are good people.  I never met Brian in any capacity, so I'd be lying if I said I knew anything as to his morals.  But one thing I'm NOT going to believe is a media that picks its victims, and the CEO is clearly in their sites now, whereas they lie for someone like Fauci, who is complicit in exponentially more negative outcomes and crimes than this CEO even if we are to believe all the negative thoughts we can conjure.  So, that's just where I stand.  I can understand not having the world's greatest compassion for the guy, but I have trouble seeing people rooting for the killer and somehow absolving him of the crime.  You're not going that far, but others have.

[purplefaithful]

As an aside, we are one of the last (maybe the last) of the developed countries without universal health care.

Anecdotally, it is my understanding we pay the most for health care and our outcomes are not the best. I'm not pushing for it (yet) because I dont feel well enough educated about it to have a strong opinion either way.

IMO health care, health insurance as an industry is in need of re-vamping. I am not far from Medicare, so it wont happen in a time-frame that will impact me...But is what we have today sustainable for our kids or grandkids?

Is it good enough and attainable enough for all?

Do all have a right to it?

[Waterboy]

As an aside, we are one of the last (maybe the last) of the developed countries without universal health care.

Anecdotally, it is my understanding we pay the most for health care and our outcomes are not the best. I'm not pushing for it (yet) because I dont feel well enough educated about it to have a strong opinion either way.

IMO health care, health insurance as an industry is in need of re-vamping. I am not far from Medicare, so it wont happen in a time-frame that will impact me...But is what we have today sustainable for our kids or grandkids? 

Is it good enough and attainable enough for all?

Do all have a right to it?

We have much better services and wait times for specialists.  Our outcomes and life expectancies aren’t failures of our medical systems as much as our lifestyles and dietary choices.  Healthcare in Canada and England have horrendous wait times.  Sign me up for nine of that.  I think the free market system is fine with tweaking, not a major overhaul.

[BigAl99]

My opinion is that heath care is a requirement for a good stable society, culture or community.  Over the last nine years I have been able to see firsthand the differences in our Healthcare system and European (Germany).  I have been on hand for the delivery of all 4 of my grand children, the quality is very similar, but the ease of access and out of pocket expenses are very different.  In Germany my daughter was given access to Midwife, Doula, birth manager.. They were able to interview and choose this person and it started in her first trimester and lasted well after she came home, their out of pocket expenses after 3 days in the hospital was under 100 EU.  My other grand children were both born in the DC/Baltimore area using Johns Hopkins medical systems and had to rely on going to Urgent Care clinics for prenatal and well baby check ups.  Their out of pocket was significantly higher, in the thousands.  I have heard them discuss the costs of being taxed as opposed to paying through an employer.  The German system has a basic level that everyone through income tax  get, then you can get additional coverage as a choice.  The ease and simplicity, no surprise costs and no denial of payments are the biggest things that stand out.  There is no comparison for family leave, they walk the talk when it comes family values being promoted by the government, the family leave is a mandate, not a benefit.

One big issue that the Europeans are totally blown away by is that you can go bankrupt just by getting sick or injured.  They just don't understand that, and why is it acceptable. Health care for profit is immoral, paying shareholders based on bottom line cost of care to sick.

[Waterboy]

I present your hero, folks.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/fa...ess-empire

[JimmyinSD]

I present your hero, folks. 

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/fa...ess-empire

Who is lauding him as the hero?  Its simply been stated that its not surprising and that the deceased was not a very likeable person by many.  Nobody has condoned the murder as you keep asserting.

[Waterboy]

Who is lauding him as the hero?  Its simply been stated that its not surprising and that the deceased was not a very likeable person by many.  Nobody has condoned the murder as you keep asserting.

You have not but others on here hoped he'd get away with it hoping he'd end up like D.B. Cooper.  And I heard a bunch of positives come up last night about his lifelong involvement in Special Olympics, and how he rose through the ranks of his company due to hard work etc....  Here's a couple of blurbs of his work to help others on the self-righteous people who somehow think he got what was coming to him.  


Tim Shriver
6 days ago  ·
Brian Thompson was a friend, an ally, and a believer in the power and importance of the athletes of Special Olympics. His sudden and horrifying death has left all of us in Special Olympics in shock and heartbreak. We will hold his spirit as we run our races for justice and joy and pray for his rest.
Special Olympics USA Games

6 days ago  ·
"We are deeply saddened by the tragic loss of Brian Thompson, CEO of UnitedHealthcare, and honorary co-chair of the 2026 Special Olympics USA Games. Our heartfelt condolences go out to Brian’s family, friends, and colleagues during this difficult time.
Brian was a passionate advocate for the Special Olympics movement and a steadfast supporter of our mission to celebrate the abilities of athletes with intellectual disabilities. The 2026 Special Olympics USA Games will honor Brian’s legacy by continuing the work he championed and celebrating the courage and determination of our athletes."

Meanwhile, the truth about Fauci continues to trickle out, now via Substack...

https://www.drvinayprasad.com/p/will-biden-pardon-fauci