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CEO of UnitedHealthcare murdered this morning in Manhattan
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(12-05-2024, 02:49 PM)Vikergirl Wrote: No actually I was referring to the comments about his death on various platforms. I said I understand the anger and frustration at the system, reforms are needed. I understand the anger, fear, desperation and frustration. It's hard when there are so many barriers to care. There are a wide range of motivators for people's actions. A lot of lives are lost to anger no doubt and this is clearly another example of that

The deceased showed no compassion for those he profited off,  likely many of those you are referring to,  i fault nobody for failing to find compassion in his death. (Ok,  i feel bad that his kids grow up without a father) Perhaps  this will serve as a wakeup call to corporate leaders to remember that their decisions have far reaching ramifications and affect those with much less than they have....but im not holding my breath.
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Here's another in-depth article on some more of their shady practices. It's not just them but they are far and away the worst.

https://www.propublica.org/article/unite...-algorithm
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#33
Let’s just hope this starts a trend. Quit taking out school children and start getting famous for morally bankrupt CEOs.
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That Crimestoppers photo…that guy looks like a teenager…
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(12-05-2024, 04:39 PM)JimmyinSD Wrote: The deceased showed no compassion for those he profited off,  likely many of those you are referring to,  i fault nobody for failing to find compassion in his death. (Ok,  i feel bad that his kids grow up without a father) Perhaps  this will serve as a wakeup call to corporate leaders to remember that their decisions have far reaching ramifications and affect those with much less than they have....but im not holding my breath.

I agree, and I'll add:

the insurance companies have the most lobbyists, are among the most profitable companies on Earth, have gotten their products/services legislated into MANDATORY status in this and other countries, and all this while writing AI programs to deny claims while still scooping up the members' money.

I'm not saying that I condone his murder...but, I'll say that when the gov't and the laws obviously are in bed with these creatures, other methods of punishment are inevitable.

Own and manipulate the lawmakers...and vigilantism gains legitimacy with the "common folk".
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(12-05-2024, 10:18 PM)Zanary Wrote: I agree, and I'll add:

the insurance companies have the most lobbyists, are among the most profitable companies on Earth, have gotten their products/services legislated into MANDATORY status in this and other countries, and all this while writing AI programs to deny claims while still scooping up the members' money.

I'm not saying that I condone his murder...but, I'll say that when the gov't and the laws obviously are in bed with these creatures, other methods of punishment are inevitable.

Own and manipulate the lawmakers...and vigilantism gains legitimacy with the "common folk".

I actually know a family member of the deceased and I think it’s awful easy to sit and pass judgment without a full accounting of the facts.  I’d also submit many of us have times in our lives that people could look at and judge negatively.  It’s okay to have an opinion, but mine is that many of you have taken your righteousness to far too great of a level and forgotten this guy was a human being that likely contributed a lot more to society than any of us have.
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I think they know who this kid is now or are damn close to knowing. They have his DNA and a decent picture of his face. Will be interesting to get his back story. I'm sure he's being tracked through the genealogy companies as we speak.
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The netflix watcher in me has ne wondering if this hit could maybe not have been a pissed off customers family member, but perhaps something on a more professional level as he was going to propose changes to the way things operate, or come forth with something damning to his company and was eliminated for that.

Smart money is more on the former train of thought, but in these times....who the hell knows?
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(12-05-2024, 11:32 PM)Waterboy Wrote: I actually know a family member of the deceased and I think it’s awful easy to sit and pass judgment without a full accounting of the facts.  I’d also submit many of us have times in our lives that people could look at and judge negatively.  It’s okay to have an opinion, but mine is that many of you have taken your righteousness to far too great of a level and forgotten this guy was a human being that likely contributed a lot more to society than any of us have.

Like what?  What made him a great person, that should have people overlooking the crimes against society that his company has committed?  Im sure hes done good things,  and its not our role to sit in judgement,  but to not see the role he had in the way that company preyed upon all those customers at their most vulnerable times, and to say that we just caught him at a bad time?  Come on man.  Should he have been murdered,  no,  surprised or confused that it happened...even greater no.  I feel bad for the family,  but dont feel a whole lot for the deceased.
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(12-05-2024, 11:32 PM)Waterboy Wrote: I actually know a family member of the deceased and I think it’s awful easy to sit and pass judgment without a full accounting of the facts.  I’d also submit many of us have times in our lives that people could look at and judge negatively.  It’s okay to have an opinion, but mine is that many of you have taken your righteousness to far too great of a level and forgotten this guy was a human being that likely contributed a lot more to society than any of us have.

I don't want to get in a back and forth before asking if you bothered to read any of the articles myself or others posted. If not you really need to because otherwise you're coming into a "debate" armed solely with emotions and zero grasp on how disgusting his companies practice are. 

Various articles, published in psychiatric and medical journals well prior to his death estimate that millions of "life hours" have been lost as a result of their practices in recent years. While I am adamantly against violence and am not glad he's dead, I understand the anger directed at him. As an aside history is littered with people who are great to their loved ones or donated to charity but complete monsters outside of that.
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