Jags game/NFL observations

[StickierBuns]

Its a win......and the D showed up big time. I'll take it:

• Can't start anywhere but here, and as Viking's fans....you understand: John. Parker. Romo. Tip o' the hat, good sir. We're not used to that. And if you were able to watch the interview on the field with him right after the game, he's very easy to root for. Very happy for that dude.
  
• Hello again, defense. Missed you. 
  
• The Vikings dominated on both sides of the football. 169 yards rushing. Overwhelming time of possession difference. Allowed 111 yards passing. 
  
• Raise your hand if you are extremely happy about having JJ McCarthy for 2025? Because Sam is going to Bad Sam. This might be the game that tips him over the edge and his play will be highly erratic from this point forward. You can't throw those kinds of red zone INTs. CANNOT. Vikings are merely a playoff team with Darnold's current play, nothing more. Winning despite your QB is a recipe for disaster.
  
• This team sure as hell loves playing together, on both sides of the football. What a culture KOC has engendered.
  
• Cam Robinson you are the man. Can't imagine someone coming in, replacing Darrisaw, and having the kind of games he's had in purple. 
  
• KOC mentioned in his post game talk about propping Sam Darnold up, we still believe in you, etc. He has to do that but its not good. He keeps messing up like this and WRer boys are going to bark a bit. Supporting is one thing, but sometimes you just have to pull your head out of your ass and play solid ball.
  
• Caleb Williams: yikes
  
• 7-2 is awesome regardless. Another winnable game next week with the Titans (please, PLEASE let Will Levis start). 
  
• Goff throws 5 INTs.....and they win, lol. 
  
• Philly looks very good, wouldn't want to play them right now.
  

Interesting day around the NFL. Bad Kirk also made an appearance against the Saints. Nobody throws short of the first down marker more consistently to lose the game than Kirko. Losses by Washington and Atlanta helped the NFC cause.

[MAD GAINZ]

I said it in a different thread, if JJ McCarthy was healthy... we would have seen him go in for Darnold this game.

[StickierBuns]

I said it in a different thread, if JJ McCarthy was healthy...  we would have seen him go in for Darnold this game.

Yep and I responded, totally agree. Fans are going to turn on Darnold now, its already happening online. If he has a stinker game at home, he's going to hear the chants for McCarthy, although everyone knows he's out until next season.

Listen, the Vikings are a good team. They even made history yesterday: no other team has not scored a TD and thrown 3 INTs and won. Ever. Its like 0-154 until this game. The only game this year where I saw the Vikings got outplayed was the Rams game. But you can't continue to win games despite your QB. The NFC has very strong teams for the top 5 in the conference. Sam is trending worse each game, not incrementally better. That shouldn't be the direction. Darnold now leads the NFL in turnovers with 13.

[TBro]

Its a win......and the D showed up big time. I'll take it:

• Can't start anywhere but here, and as Viking's fans....you understand: John. Parker. Romo. Tip o' the hat, good sir. We're not used to that. And if you were able to watch the interview on the field with him right after the game, he's very easy to root for. Very happy for that dude.
  
• Hello again, defense. Missed you. 
  
• The Vikings dominated on both sides of the football. 169 yards rushing. Overwhelming time of possession difference. Allowed 111 yards passing. 
  
• Raise your hand if you are extremely happy about having JJ McCarthy for 2025? Because Sam is going to Bad Sam. This might be the game that tips him over the edge and his play will be highly erratic from this point forward. You can't throw those kinds of red zone INTs. CANNOT. Vikings are merely a playoff team with Darnold's current play, nothing more. Winning despite your QB is a recipe for disaster.
  
• This team sure as hell loves playing together, on both sides of the football. What a culture KOC has engendered.
  
• Cam Robinson you are the man. Can't imagine someone coming in, replacing Darrisaw, and having the kind of games he's had in purple. 
  
• KOC mentioned in his post game talk about propping Sam Darnold up, we still believe in you, etc. He has to do that but its not good. He keeps messing up like this and WRer boys are going to bark a bit. Supporting is one thing, but sometimes you just have to pull your head out of your ass and play solid ball.
  
• Caleb Williams: yikes
  
• 7-2 is awesome regardless. Another winnable game next week with the Titans (please, PLEASE let Will Levis start). 
  
• Goff throws 5 INTs.....and they win, lol. 
  
• Philly looks very good, wouldn't want to play them right now.
  

Interesting day around the NFL. Bad Kirk also made an appearance against the Saints. Nobody throws short of the first down marker more consistently to lose the game than Kirko. Losses by Washington and Atlanta helped the NFC cause.

In addition to your observations, I thought that KOC's play calling was bad and he couldn't figure out the Jag's defense all game. I know Sam had the Lions share of blame and rightfully so, but KOC has to be better. Despite what he said in his post game speech, his play calling reflected a Head Coach who didn't trust his QB to make plays so he tried to hold his hand during the second half to manufacture a win. Especially late in the 4th when we played not to lose.

[StickierBuns]

In addition to your observations, I thought that KOC's play calling was bad and he couldn't figure out the Jag's defense all game. I know Sam had the Lions share of blame and rightfully so, but KOC has to be better. Despite what he said in his post game speech, his play calling reflected a Head Coach who didn't trust his QB to make plays so he tried to hold his hand during the second half to manufacture a win. Especially late in the 4th when we played not to lose.

The Vikings had like 410 yards of offense.....it wasn't KOC's play calling. Minnesota dominated time of possession, most TOP by any team in any game this year so far in the league. It was 3 redzone INTs, period. Not sure why you'd go to blaming KOC here? But I will agree that KOC has lost trust in Darnold, how could he not? At some point, you have to turtle up from a game plan perspective a bit in the 4th to avoid another ridiculous and demoralizing redzone INT and losing the game.

"The #Vikings had the ball for 42 minutes and 44 seconds today against the #Jaguars, which is the most by any team in a game this season. Yet zero touchdowns were scored."

[NorseFeathers]

[1VikesFan]

Its a win......and the D showed up big time. I'll take it:

• Can't start anywhere but here, and as Viking's fans....you understand: John. Parker. Romo. Tip o' the hat, good sir. We're not used to that. And if you were able to watch the interview on the field with him right after the game, he's very easy to root for. Very happy for that dude.
  
• Hello again, defense. Missed you. 
  
• The Vikings dominated on both sides of the football. 169 yards rushing. Overwhelming time of possession difference. Allowed 111 yards passing. 
  
• Raise your hand if you are extremely happy about having JJ McCarthy for 2025? Because Sam is going to Bad Sam. This might be the game that tips him over the edge and his play will be highly erratic from this point forward. You can't throw those kinds of red zone INTs. CANNOT. Vikings are merely a playoff team with Darnold's current play, nothing more. Winning despite your QB is a recipe for disaster.
  
• This team sure as hell loves playing together, on both sides of the football. What a culture KOC has engendered.
  
• Cam Robinson you are the man. Can't imagine someone coming in, replacing Darrisaw, and having the kind of games he's had in purple. 
  
• KOC mentioned in his post game talk about propping Sam Darnold up, we still believe in you, etc. He has to do that but its not good. He keeps messing up like this and WRer boys are going to bark a bit. Supporting is one thing, but sometimes you just have to pull your head out of your ass and play solid ball.
  
• Caleb Williams: yikes
  
• 7-2 is awesome regardless. Another winnable game next week with the Titans (please, PLEASE let Will Levis start). 
  
• Goff throws 5 INTs.....and they win, lol. 
  
• Philly looks very good, wouldn't want to play them right now.
  

Interesting day around the NFL. Bad Kirk also made an appearance against the Saints. Nobody throws short of the first down marker more consistently to lose the game than Kirko. Losses by Washington and Atlanta helped the NFC cause.

Agree with all of this. I would like to add two words: Blake Cashman!!

[StickierBuns]

Sidenote: Did anyone notice Mac Jones being totally Mac Jones by taunting the Viking's sideline after his TD? lol, he's such a dumbass. I mean he went off celebrating and yelling at the Vikings. Dude, you're a bust. Relax.

[TBro]

The Vikings had like 410 yards of offense.....it wasn't KOC's play calling. Minnesota dominated time of possession, most TOP by any team in any game this year so far in the league. It was 3 redzone INTs, period. Not sure why you'd go to blaming KOC here? But I will agree that KOC has lost trust in Darnold, how could he not? At some point, you have to turtle up from a game plan perspective a bit in the 4th to avoid another ridiculous and demoralizing redzone INT and losing the game.

Their 3rd Down effectiveness in this game was 35% which is 3% below last year's numbers with QB's far worse than Darnold. They had 5 consecutive drives of not converting on 3rd downs. Like I said, we are in agreement that Darnold was Hot Garbage yesterday, but I'm not going to let KOC off the hook for some of the questionable play calling especially in the Red Zone and 4th quarter. KOC said he was going to "Simplify Things" after Darrisaw's injury but I'm not really seeing much difference in their approach of aggressively trying to drive the ball down the field. As teams take away Jefferson, he needs to scheme more plays featuring Addison and Nailor. Maybe he is and Darnold is too focused on Jefferson but it doesn't look like that is happening. Darnold was at his best yesterday when he was getting chased out of the pocket on off script plays or took off running for some nice gains. Maybe we need to see more of that. In the end, they live to play another day with a 7-2 record and the top Wild Card spot in the NFC.

[pattersaur]

Copied from the game thread-

Ugggggly win. Amazing work by the defense all game long. Very impressive. And the kicker! Great job, new guy. Absolutely huge.

As for the offense- pretty good game from what I could tell, from everyone except one guy. 10/11 players playing well should mean we roll, right? Not so much. Sad. Good lord, Darnold sucked eggs!

Defenses are taking away the explosive plays and giving Darnold the underneath stuff, expecting him to eventually make a mistake. Basic stuff but it’s shutting our offense down big time.

Hockenson played incredible today. Moved the sticks in so many clutch spots, and then got basically ignored in the red zone.



As I was writing that last night I thought, guarantee Sticky starts a new thread at 3am for some reason so I should just wait and write in that lol. Well here are my thoughts again!