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Kentis · (This post was last modified: 10-26-2024, 04:05 PM by Kentis.)

Verse was a beast, he went 2 picks after Turner, did we pick the wrong guy again…!?

StickierBuns · (This post was last modified: 10-27-2024, 05:50 AM by StickierBuns.)

(10-25-2024, 02:41 PM)Kentis Wrote: Verse was a beast, he went 2 picks after Turner, did we pick the wrong guy again…!?

Maybe, hard to say yet. Turner is young and he's said he wants to add NFL muscle weight. I think he's getting handled and its affecting his confidence. He's talented athletically, hopefully some muscle, experience, etc. will help him next year and beyond. I think he's the type of player that is going to have to work hard to get better, he hasn't naturally played well out of the gate. I think he lacks maturity, when I've heard him speak and seen quotes, he seems very kid-like.

hogjowlsjohnny · 10-27-2024, 08:54 AM

(10-27-2024, 05:49 AM)StickierBuns Wrote: Maybe, hard to say yet. Turner is young and he's said he wants to add NFL muscle weight. I think he's getting handled and its affecting his confidence. He's talented athletically, hopefully some muscle, experience, etc. will help him next year and beyond. I think he's the type of player that is going to have to work hard to get better, he hasn't naturally played well out of the gate. I think he lacks maturity, when I've heard him speak and seen quotes, he seems very kid-like.

If this is true, and I believe it is, he was taken too early in the draft. Most people at his position that are taken that early are expected to be productive right out of the gate.

StickierBuns · (This post was last modified: 10-27-2024, 09:11 AM by StickierBuns.)

(10-27-2024, 08:54 AM)hogjowlsjohnny Wrote: If this is true, and I believe it is, he was taken too early in the draft. Most people at his position that are taken that early are expected to be productive right out of the gate.

Not always. Chris Doleman started out at OLB before transitioning to DE after getting bigger his rookie year. Very underwhelming rookie season for Doleman.

MaroonBells · (This post was last modified: 10-27-2024, 09:16 AM by MaroonBells.)

(10-25-2024, 02:41 PM)Kentis Wrote: Verse was a beast, he went 2 picks after Turner, did we pick the wrong guy again…!?

I liked Verse a little more than Turner, but only because he seemed to play with a better base. He was a stronger player who could actually bullrush a tackle twice his size. And I think that's why he's been able to play well so early. But I thought Turner was the quicker outside pass rusher...and still do. We'll see how they compare next year.