these upcoming debates...

[JimmyinSD]

Glad to see politics on the back-burner with the candidates today (9/11).

As it should be.

I don't know how close this race will be? I suspect pretty close and decided by 1 or 2 swing state counties.

its only going to be as close as they allow it to be. there is no way any rational informed tax paying citizen thinks the direction of the country under the biden harris regime is a good choice, no matter how much they may dislike Trump, but I still dont believe that Trump will be declared the winner, there will just be a convenient box or two of ballots found where needed.

[purplefaithful]

its only going to be as close as they allow it to be.  there is no way any rational informed tax paying citizen thinks the direction of the country under the biden harris regime is a good choice,  no matter how much they may dislike Trump,  but I still dont believe that Trump will be declared the winner,  there will just be a convenient box or two of ballots found where needed.

my $ is on another Trump term...

[JimmyinSD]

my $ is on another Trump term...

honestly... I am still kind of hoping for the hung jury thing where RFKj gets to come out of no where, but there is no way in hell I want another 4 years of what we have now. Its scary to envision our country if it continues on the path it is currently on IMO.

I just dont think the powers that be will allow Trump.

[Zanary]

Numerically, I think Trumplestilskin would lose if the election were held today. He's gained essentially no momentum in weeks, maybe months, and his VP went from brief bright moment to an ongoing series of "Vansplainings" regarding his truly dumbass remarks on various versions of childless women and the like.

Trump also managed to look less practiced and comfortable against a near rookie last night, and maybe this should be a BIG SIGN to people in deep denial:

when a constant slew of performers and bands are sending "cease and desist" among other legal actions to keep orange boi from using their music, those are calculated risks from people who typically try and dodge politics. If they're willing to stand up to the felonious Chee-To in front of their whole worldwide fandom and denounce him...they feel like their fandom will forgive them, at the very least.

Hey, I've been honest-I've called the Donald a lyting, narcissistic s**tboi for decades, and I still cannot fathom ANY of his fans/supporters, including those among my friends/family. I actually called his win in 2016 (though I voted for Gary Johnson) because Hillary was another lying sack of s**t with even less charisma.

There's been a LOT of "I can't believe 80 million people voted for Joe Biden" growling among the 2020 denial club, and maybe that's halfway accurate...but, couple the ones that did vote for him with the ones that find Trumplestilskin to be a disgusting, lying, asshat...and you'd find a great many willing to vote AGAINST him. After all, isn't every election year about voting against the other "side" ending the country as we know it?

The felonious dink had best find a new type of damage control, ASAFP, or his "everything's rigged, there'll be blood, I'm gonna get revenge" message will continue to look like the nasty, negative, and frankly stupid platform that it is.

[purplefaithful]

honestly... I am still kind of hoping for the hung jury thing where RFKj gets to come out of no where,  but there is no way in hell I want another 4 years of what we have now.  Its scary to envision our country if it continues on the path it is currently on IMO.

I just dont think the powers that be will allow Trump.

Well I hope they dont lol! 

Harris has a monumental, complex tax to accomplish in a very short time-frame. 

Not predicting Trump will win the popular vote, he'll get in with 1 or 2 electoral swing state wins imo.

[JimmyinSD]

Well I hope they dont lol! 

Harris has a monumental, complex tax to accomplish in a very short time-frame. 

Not predicting Trump will win the popular vote, he'll get in with 1 or 2 electoral swing state wins imo.

if you think Harris is going to do anything to change the course of this country... well, I am not really sure what to say there, except prepare to be disappointed. 2026 will be this country's 250th birthday and with the path we are on, will there even be anything worth celebrating?

[Zanary]

if you think Harris is going to do anything to change the course of this country... well, I am not really sure what to say there, except prepare to be disappointed.  2026 will be this country's 250th birthday and with the path we are on,  will there even be anything worth celebrating?

...yes, because voting the "other way" will END THE COUNTRY!!!!!

(as said by every partisan melodrama enabler in...well, I first remember hearing that about the 1980 election)

She's an unethical, vacuous mess leading a cannibalizing party with whackos and moderates squaring off. We know he's a lying, felonious misogynist who's running a platform of hatred and retribution...because he's a tiny not-quite-man. You can't admit mistakes/failures, you're not really a man...that used to be common knowledge.

Both parties are worse than before, she's a nothing-burger and he's on his last run of cannibalizing the GOP.

I'll lay odds that 2026 will still have America, and plenty to celebrate. Miraculously, 1982 did...!

[JimmyinSD]

...yes, because voting the "other way" will END THE COUNTRY!!!!!

(as said by every partisan melodrama enabler in...well, I first remember hearing that about the 1980 election)

She's an unethical, vacuous mess leading a cannibalizing party with whackos and moderates squaring off. We know he's a lying, felonious misogynist who's running a platform of hatred and retribution...because he's a tiny not-quite-man. You can't admit mistakes/failures, you're not really a man...that used to be common knowledge.

Both parties are worse than before, she's a nothing-burger and he's on his last run of cannibalizing the GOP.

I'll lay odds that 2026 will still have America, and plenty to celebrate. Miraculously, 1982 did...!

if you listen to the economists.. they are saying with current trends we are looking at a major recession in the next 24 months, I dont see harris changing anything, in fact I see her handlers putting the pedal down on their kill America agendas and it will only accelerate a major economic collapse. I dont doubt America will still be here, but will anybody be wanting to party, or just more fighting? I wont be surprised to see a lot more unrest this time if the election is a suspect as the last one was.

[Zanary]

if you listen to the economists.. they are saying with current trends we are looking at a major recession in the next 24 months,  I dont see harris changing anything,  in fact I see her handlers putting the pedal down on their kill America agendas and it will only accelerate a major economic collapse.  I dont doubt America will still be here,  but will anybody be wanting to party,  or just more fighting?  I wont be surprised to see a lot more unrest this time if the election is a suspect as the last one was.

...it was suspect, largely, because the buffoon who was trying to call governors to "find votes" (what could be more legit?) and whose own appointed judges confirmed what he refused to hear...

...is a spoiled, petulant, s**tty waste of human tissue that is a worse loser than the screaming child who throws the board game up in the air, mid-tantrum. Much worse, because he enabled/encouraged the same mindset in millions of people determined to believe rhetoric even when presented with proof.

He's not the first classless jackass to be a clown about losing an election, but he obviously has taken it furthest, and keeps stoking the redcaps and closer disciples (MTG...watch out for the space lasers!) parroting his babble, and some take it WAY too far...so we get the January 6th debacle, which he's tried to blame on everyone from Pelosi (who's not in the authority tree for Capitol security, that was full-on fictional blather) to Haley (who was completely uninvolved, not in D.C.), and the D.C. Mayor (not in that tree, either). Involving the National Guard is done by the Prez, the SecDef, or the Sec of the Army. TRUMP HAS LIED THE ENTIRE FUGGIN' TIME, AS HAS BEEN REPEATEDLY POINTED OUT.

Do I doubt that individuals, on any/all given sides, may have acted unethically? Hell, no...politics brings out the worst in people. That said, there has been nothing, after many investigations, to suggest that "Fired 45" has been anything other than a horrific, piggish brat willing to add to the country's divisions just for his own ego.

So, do I hate him now more than I did? Oh, hell yes. He's a traitor, all about him, and people keep empowering him to f**k this country to make himself feel a millimeter closer to the illusion of manhood.

[Zanary]

Also...no search engine I used, and despite checking news at local and wider levels...

...the "Ohio pet consumption" stack of bulls**t can just be the latest reason that honest people want the orange era of the GOP done with.