Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ StickyBun said:
What's going to be hilarious is if its not Maye, lol.
I think everyone's jumping the gun on that. I kinda think the Vikings have a handshake agreement with the Cards trading 11 and 23 for 4, and would be very happy taking whichever QB is left. But as they go through the draft process, they may realize that adding some juice to move up one or two more might be worth the squeeze. Remember, they did plant a seed with New England at the combine.
I just get the feeling Kwesi wants to be very aggressive in getting the QB they want. I even think that if any team other than the Bears owned the 1st pick, they'd go after that one too.
I dont think Arizona wants to miss out of MHjr. I think NE may be the path or number 5 depending on other variables.
Quote: @kmillard said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ StickyBun said:
What's going to be hilarious is if its not Maye, lol.
I think everyone's jumping the gun on that. I kinda think the Vikings have a handshake agreement with the Cards trading 11 and 23 for 4, and would be very happy taking whichever QB is left. But as they go through the draft process, they may realize that adding some juice to move up one or two more might be worth the squeeze. Remember, they did plant a seed with New England at the combine.
I just get the feeling Kwesi wants to be very aggressive in getting the QB they want. I even think that if any team other than the Bears owned the 1st pick, they'd go after that one too.
I dont think Arizona wants to miss out of MHjr. I think NE may be the path or number 5 depending on other variables.
It could be that the Patriots just take Marvin Harrison and try to get a QB later on or even next draft. Everyone is so obsessed with the idea that QBs are gonna go 1-2-3, but New England doesn't have a great set up for a young QB and may not like whichever 3rd guy is left.
They may just say F it, we're taking a generational WR who is the best player in the draft (yes, he's a better prospect overall than Williams or Daniels or Maye at thejr position) and that'll leave the Cardinals as a prime trade up spot for whoever wants to grab a QB.
Quote: @kmillard said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ StickyBun said:
What's going to be hilarious is if its not Maye, lol.
I think everyone's jumping the gun on that. I kinda think the Vikings have a handshake agreement with the Cards trading 11 and 23 for 4, and would be very happy taking whichever QB is left. But as they go through the draft process, they may realize that adding some juice to move up one or two more might be worth the squeeze. Remember, they did plant a seed with New England at the combine.
I just get the feeling Kwesi wants to be very aggressive in getting the QB they want. I even think that if any team other than the Bears owned the 1st pick, they'd go after that one too.
I dont think Arizona wants to miss out of MHjr. I think NE may be the path or number 5 depending on other variables.
Maybe. But you can't just consider why a team WOULDN'T want to trade down. You also have to consider why a team WOULD want to trade down. Remember, everyone wants to trade down. It's almost a default stance.
Sure, they may want MHJ. Who doesn't? So should Chicago and Washington and New England. But Arizona's biggest needs are DL and CB. They can get the very best DL or CB in the draft at 11. And this WR class is stacked. I'd be surprised if one of the top three WRs wasn't still there at 11. And even if he's not, the value at WR in this draft is thickest between 30 and 50. There are like 10 receivers in that range. If I'm them, that's where I target one. DL at 11, CB at 23, WR at 35 is a damn good haul for them.
Quote: @mgobluevikes said:
I'll be at COSTCO the next day buying a new OLED screen if we trade up to 3 for Maye. This guy has Blaine Gabbert vibes dripping from his every orifice.
I'm really good at decoding the real message under the cryptic. What you are saying is that you need a bigger screen so that you can better see what drips out of Maye's orifices.
Maye to Minnesota makes a ton of sense, from what we are looking for and fit in our offense, to bringing in Josh McCown who coached him in high school. They are correct in that everything we have done to this point would lead you to believe that Maye is the quarterback we want. When I watch Maye, he has a lot of Ben Roethlisberger in his playing style and the way he is built. He is getting knocked for a lack of production and other things, but he didn't have close to the amount of talent surrounding him that Caleb Williams or Jayden Daniel's had. He was essentially out there on his own trying to will his hometown Tarheels to wins. They are all huge rolls of the dice, Caleb Williams included, so I'd have no problem with them taking Maye.
Quote: @Waterboy said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ mgobluevikes said:
@ MaroonBells said:
Dan Orlovsky: "Most of these 1st round QBs if they go to Minnesota are going to be really good. Kevin's great, their offensive line is great, Addison's an awesome #2, Hockenson's a stud...I think Minnesota made those trades because they want to go get Drake Maye...If this young man goes to Minnesota he will be a stud."
https://twitter.com/TPPSkol/status/17687...37941?s=20
Orlovsky is an idiot...If he thinks we have an awesome O-line, he should just shut his mouth and run out of the back of the end zone.
you beat me to it, he could be silent and let the world think he is an idiot, but instead he chose to open his mouth and prove it.
That being said, the line can pass protect at an adequate level and you have targets all over the field. I can't think of a better situation to develop a guy with a gunslinger mentality when the head guy is a QB guru. I'd take Maye or McCarthy and put faith in the setting to get them to the next level.
I don't get the QB guru label. Exactly where is this list of QB's he's developed into pro bowlers? Cousins had 1 year with him before Minnesota, wasn't developed under O'Connell, nor did he turn his career around. When O'Connell was with the Rams, he was never a QB coach. Browns, they had Manziel in rehab.
It's just weird that because he comes off as a reasonable human being, who seems to have empathy, he is a Maharishi in the eyes of the media.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ kmillard said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ StickyBun said:
What's going to be hilarious is if its not Maye, lol.
I think everyone's jumping the gun on that. I kinda think the Vikings have a handshake agreement with the Cards trading 11 and 23 for 4, and would be very happy taking whichever QB is left. But as they go through the draft process, they may realize that adding some juice to move up one or two more might be worth the squeeze. Remember, they did plant a seed with New England at the combine.
I just get the feeling Kwesi wants to be very aggressive in getting the QB they want. I even think that if any team other than the Bears owned the 1st pick, they'd go after that one too.
I dont think Arizona wants to miss out of MHjr. I think NE may be the path or number 5 depending on other variables.
Maybe. But you can't just consider why a team WOULDN'T want to trade down. You also have to consider why a team WOULD want to trade down. Remember, everyone wants to trade down. It's almost a default stance.
Sure, they may want MHJ. Who doesn't? So should Chicago and Washington and New England. But Arizona's biggest needs are DL and CB. They can get the very best DL or CB in the draft at 11. And this WR class is stacked. I'd be surprised if one of the top three WRs wasn't still there at 11. And even if he's not, the value at WR in this draft is thickest between 30 and 50. There are like 10 receivers in that range. If I'm them, that's where I target one. DL at 11, CB at 23, WR at 35 is a damn good haul for them.
Right, but they lost their best WR to the Chiefs today and Have a QB who needs a high end weapon. There are more ways than one to get that of course but we will see.
Quote: @Wetlander said:
@ kmillard said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ StickyBun said:
What's going to be hilarious is if its not Maye, lol.
I think everyone's jumping the gun on that. I kinda think the Vikings have a handshake agreement with the Cards trading 11 and 23 for 4, and would be very happy taking whichever QB is left. But as they go through the draft process, they may realize that adding some juice to move up one or two more might be worth the squeeze. Remember, they did plant a seed with New England at the combine.
I just get the feeling Kwesi wants to be very aggressive in getting the QB they want. I even think that if any team other than the Bears owned the 1st pick, they'd go after that one too.
I dont think Arizona wants to miss out of MHjr. I think NE may be the path or number 5 depending on other variables.
It could be that the Patriots just take Marvin Harrison and try to get a QB later on or even next draft. Everyone is so obsessed with the idea that QBs are gonna go 1-2-3, but New England doesn't have a great set up for a young QB and may not like whichever 3rd guy is left.
They may just say F it, we're taking a generational WR who is the best player in the draft (yes, he's a better prospect overall than Williams or Daniels or Maye at thejr position) and that'll leave the Cardinals as a prime trade up spot for whoever wants to grab a QB.
The Pats might grab MHJ at 3 and hope either Penix or Nix falls to 34.
Drake Maye reminds me of a more athletic Justin Herbert. He's listed at 6'4" (I looked it up, he measure 6'4.5" at the Combine), but he sure looks taller than that. Just a great arm. He takes risks, but I'm telling you that is what usually translates into being a difference maker in the NFL if you have the WRers to help you....which Minnesota does. The guy is so mobile for a tall dude, its surprising to watch. They'll work on that footwork. They don't have to touch that throwing motion.
If this is the guy for them, I get it from KOC's perspective: its his perfect piece of clay. Height, incredible athleticism, big arm, gunslinger, works the middle of the field and goes deep at any time. He's got a really good processor. But I don't think its a 100% done deal, Washington could fuck it up.
I assumed Maye is a smokescreen. What purpose would leaking your target prior to the draft serve?
Smokescreen or wild ass guess?
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