Quote: @jargomcfargo said:
Interesting how the talking heads all know Maye is the target all of a sudden. Call me a skeptic!
Oh, be skeptical. Its still full blown Liar's Season. When things start to get more honest is about 3 days before the Draft. We have a LONG way to go.
Quote: @Bullazin said:
@ Rigby said:
Personally, I would be rather disappointed with Maye...and I'm a Carolina guy.
Rig, how do you compare Maye to Howell? interested to know since you have likely watched both a lot.
Maye has the higher ceiling and could become a special QB, however he makes far too many head scratching throws/decisions. Will be interesting to see how he acclimates to NFL coaching, whether here or elsewhere. The Heels have employed a suspect coaching staff since Butch Davis' days. Sam has the higher floor - a gamer with a strong arm and a competitive streak, I was a little surprised Washington made the quick decision to move on. Bottom line for me - Sam can be a starter in this league but will not be a difference maker deep into playoffs. Drake has the ability, but will take some work. For what it's worth, Drake comes from a great family and support system.
Each of this years QB's comes with some concern (including Williams). There may be a franchise quarterback or two that comes from the group. Conversely there may be none. It really is a crapshoot.
As far as the Vikes are concerned, I would guess they are targeting Maye or McCarthy. They seem to approximate closely to KOC's QB profile. Zero chance I would add the 2025 1st to #11 & #23 for either. Desperation rarely wins out.
All of the Maye talk makes me think there is some truth to the rumors that started at the combine about us talking to NE about the 3rd pick. I wouldn't see us letting that kind of information about Maye out unless we had a deal there, because then it doesn't matter who knows. Would not seem possible, but with the trade today it sure seems like things are lining up that way, cause do not see us doing that unless we are moving up to top 3.
Just speculating, but I don't see the Patriots trading the pick. If they are open to a trade, there will be some serious juice flowing at them and the Vikes will be one of several bidders. If you believe the Bears, Commanders and Patriots all take QB's, then one of a few things is likely true: (1) the Vikings like Maye and McCarthy, and will swing a trade with the Cardinals for the #4 pick to get whichever is left on the board at #4; (2) they like one of the two -- Maye or McCarthy (I assume Daniels and Williams are off the Board) -- and they will swing the trade with the Cardinals if the QB they covet is on the board. If "their guy" is gone, they likely trade back. The obvious conclusion of the Texans trade is that they are not enamored with Penix or Nix.
I'll be at COSTCO the next day buying a new OLED screen if we trade up to 3 for Maye. This guy has Blaine Gabbert vibes dripping from his every orifice.
Dan Orlovsky: "Most of these 1st round QBs if they go to Minnesota are going to be really good. Kevin's great, their offensive line is great, Addison's an awesome #2, Hockenson's a stud...I think Minnesota made those trades because they want to go get Drake Maye...If this young man goes to Minnesota he will be a stud."
https://twitter.com/TPPSkol/status/17687...37941?s=20
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
Dan Orlovsky: "Most of these 1st round QBs if they go to Minnesota are going to be really good. Kevin's great, their offensive line is great, Addison's an awesome #2, Hockenson's a stud...I think Minnesota made those trades because they want to go get Drake Maye...If this young man goes to Minnesota he will be a stud."
https://twitter.com/TPPSkol/status/17687...37941?s=20
Orlovsky is an idiot...If he thinks we have an awesome O-line, he should just shut his mouth and run out of the back of the end zone.
Quote: @Rigby said:
@ Bullazin said:
@ Rigby said:
Personally, I would be rather disappointed with Maye...and I'm a Carolina guy.
Rig, how do you compare Maye to Howell? interested to know since you have likely watched both a lot.
Maye has the higher ceiling and could become a special QB, however he makes far too many head scratching throws/decisions. Will be interesting to see how he acclimates to NFL coaching, whether here or elsewhere. The Heels have employed a suspect coaching staff since Butch Davis' days. Sam has the higher floor - a gamer with a strong arm and a competitive streak, I was a little surprised Washington made the quick decision to move on. Bottom line for me - Sam can be a starter in this league but will not be a difference maker deep into playoffs. Drake has the ability, but will take some work. For what it's worth, Drake comes from a great family and support system.
Each of this years QB's comes with some concern (including Williams). There may be a franchise quarterback or two that comes from the group. Conversely there may be none. It really is a crapshoot.
As far as the Vikes are concerned, I would guess they are targeting Maye or McCarthy. They seem to approximate closely to KOC's QB profile. Zero chance I would add the 2025 1st to #11 & #23 for either. Desperation rarely wins out.
I'm a Tar Heel fan too and I agree with Rigby on his observations of Maye. Drake's dad was a Tar Heel QB back in the day, and a damn good one too. Also, Drake's older brother was a star on the Tar Heel basketball team (sorry Kentucky Wildcats). I think having a pedigree like that doesn't guarantee anything, but it's favorable.
Drake is a very confident QB, maybe too confident. It might explain some of his head scratching throws. And he is not one of these QBs that can only throw quick screens and to the protection of the sidelines. He will, and does, throw down the middle a lot and with accuracy.
His reputation is a QB that can run. His running style reminds me of Brad Johnson. Runs straight ahead with purpose and good speed but like Brad, not very elusive. It took Maye awhile, but he finally started to learn to get down before taking on the big hit.
And that's one big concern I have. He's very young and he's still learning the nuances of the game. I wouldn't say he's immature, just young (he turns 22 in August). Drake has a very high ceiling (he has a gunslinger's mentality) but his success will largely be decided on how he is handled and brought along by the organization and coaching staff.
IMHO, I'd be OK with JJM or Nix over Drake. They both better fit Bill Parcells' criteria of drafting a QB, and though Parcells' criteria is not perfect, I think it gives you a better picture of who you are drafting.
This is ironic to me because Maye reminds me of Sam Darnold coming out.
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