Tis the season of throwing s#$% against the wall

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I'll believe Cousins leaves when I see it.  If Kirk doesn't stay, then FU Cousins.  You'll be a very rich man, but never the elite QB teams are looking for.

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I see everything right now as smoke and mirrors from agents, team PR divisions, and from "reporters" trying to earn their word-count paychecks. You notice how little concrete ANYTHING is from an actual player or team...especially in the case of Kirk and the Vikings? Both have said they hope to work things out, both have said they understand it's a business, and that's...it.

Everything else is bibble-babble from "sources".

I hope he stays, I think the emerging o-line and defense could finally put a team around him that would have balance; previously, this would actually be a first for him in Purple. If he goes, I know he'll be classy about it and, like Teddy, TJack, and others before, I'll wish him well as long as he's not playing against us.

As far as everything bubbling up on the sites, now? Show me the "sources", or spare me.

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Arthur Blank will be 82 this September.  He isn't wasting time with Justin Fields, or telling his people "let's try another rookie cuz I figure I'll live forever."  He has a team with a lot of talent in a weak division.  They were in a lot of games last year until Desmond Ridder took them out of them.  I would say it's pretty likely that the rumor he wants Kirk is true.

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@ThunderGod said:
I am ready to move on and ignore what Kirk is doing.

if, by chance, we can’t grab one of the top four QBs in to draft, then I say draft to rebuild the team.

People keep sayin but if all of the top four are gone, then what.  I say, screw it,and higher a short term bridge QB for 2024 (maybe 2025) and start rebuilding the house.

I am not afraid of a bad year, in fact it helps us grab the QB down the road.  Stop screwing around or we will end up in fourth place in the North behind three teams that already rebuilt.

It's not even clear who the "top 4" are. This is true every year as qbs get drafted way high and have careers that fizzle.

I think Penix is the best prospect in this draft and he will probably be available at 11. What the Vikings think or plan to do, I have no idea.

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Offseason speculation is part of the NFL "entertainment" experience.  I don't know why people get so upset about prognosticators or media during this time.  Stop taking everything so serious like it is an affront just try and enjoy and speculate yourself.  

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@minny65 said:
Offseason speculation is part of the NFL "entertainment" experience.  I don't know why people get so upset about prognosticators or media during this time.  Stop taking everything so serious like it is an affront just try and enjoy and speculate yourself.  

The people getting riled up and saying mean things about players based on rumors and comments released for negotiating purposes are nuts.

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@minny65 said:
Offseason speculation is part of the NFL "entertainment" experience.  I don't know why people get so upset about prognosticators or media during this time.  Stop taking everything so serious like it is an affront just try and enjoy and speculate yourself.  

This. The level of anger directed at Cousins on Twitter for not being willing to take a "team-friendly" deal is the most idiotic. He was never going to take a team friendly deal. Under-market due to the injury? Sure. But a top 6 to 7, 35-year old QB is not going to take a significantly-under-market deal if he doesn't have to...if he's got a market, and it's clear he does. 

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@MaroonBells said:

@minny65 said:
Offseason speculation is part of the NFL "entertainment" experience.  I don't know why people get so upset about prognosticators or media during this time.  Stop taking everything so serious like it is an affront just try and enjoy and speculate yourself.  

This. The level of anger directed at Cousins on Twitter for not being willing to take a "team-friendly" deal is the most idiotic. He was never going to take a team friendly deal. Under-market due to the injury? Sure. But a top 6 to 7, 35-year old QB is not going to take a significantly-under-market deal if he doesn't have to...if he's got a market, and it's clear he does. 

However, if you're the #1 QB, like Brady, you're smart enough to take less.  That's probably his secret to winning SBs.

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@MaroonBells said:

@minny65 said:
Offseason speculation is part of the NFL "entertainment" experience.  I don't know why people get so upset about prognosticators or media during this time.  Stop taking everything so serious like it is an affront just try and enjoy and speculate yourself.  

This. The level of anger directed at Cousins on Twitter for not being willing to take a "team-friendly" deal is the most idiotic. He was never going to take a team friendly deal. Under-market due to the injury? Sure. But a top 6 to 7, 35-year old QB is not going to take a significantly-under-market deal if he doesn't have to...if he's got a market, and it's clear he does. 

Agree, any online hate is ridiculous.  That said, team friendly doesn't always mean less money.  Could be less years with a market rate deal, less guaranteed money at a market rate deal, or removing the no trade clause. Accepting any one (not all) of those things would likely get a deal done with the Vikings.

From what I've gathered, it sounds like Kirk wants 3 years fully guaranteed and a no trade clause like he got from Spielman a few years ago.  He wants to be the unquestioned guy for the next 3 years. Can't blame him for that.

It also seems like the Vikings want to do 2 or less years guaranteed so they aren't on the hook if he can't make it back from the Achilles or experiences any age related decline before the end of any upcoming contract.  Can't blame them either.

One side will need to cave in if he's going to be here next year.  But if some other team is willing to give him 50+ million per year guaranteed and a no trade clause, he's gone and the Vikings will probably be looking at Russ, Baker, or some other bridge QB and making a move for a QBotF.

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Now that Evans reupped w/ Tampa, Baker probably resigns, & they then tag Winfield. Not sure why Mayfield woldn’t stay there…