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Trump Pays Large for Lying. Again.
#21
Quote: @BigAl99 said:
@JimmyinSD said:
It's funny how nobody went after him for all this lifetime of misdeeds when he was a democratic donor and supporter.  Only when he flipped teams does he become public enemy #1.  Seems to be a pretty common theme for team blue when their dogs bite the hand that feeds it.

Not really funny, but more the fallacy of your point.  His legal mentor Roy Cohn is probably unheard of to you, but did raise him well, loved him more than Fred did by many accounts.  Trump was named in litigation  around 3,500 times before he was anointed leader of the patriotic conservatives.  

https://www.abajournal.com/web/article/a...0-lawsuits

I'm guessing you know he (or his company) was the plaintiff in most of those.  Shocker..huh?  What are the odds of a long time, large New York Real Estate Developer and former Casino owner being involved in numerous lawsuits with subcontractors, repair/ maintenance, evictions, non-payment, etc.  
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#22
Quote: @Vanguard83 said:
Why even vote? - you think this is a democracy? that your vote means anything?
What effect does a Republican have in CA.? or a Democrat in Texas?

This is a Plutocracy 

Theres only two VIABLE parties. You’ve got more choices buying potato chips.

A geriatric fighting stage 4 Alzheimers
                   or
An ego-centric, loud mouthed, misogynistic swindler

”Corporate mouthpieces”

Either one sitting on 900 billion annual military budget, meanwhile hard working folks cant afford to purchase a home, or mandatory insurance for home, car, & basic health care. If you do file a claim, it will be denied, or after years of wrangling pay out pennies on the dollar. 

’MERICA!

Have studied and taught history for 40years - The “American Revolution” is incorrectly named....It was a “war for independence” against Britain. A “revolution” is against an EXISTING / ESTABLISHED government.  We havent yet had an “American Revolution” but one is sorely needed.

We are next the Roman Empire.
I would argue that not voting is what they actually
want.  Let all the people who are sucked
into team red or team blue vote for their preferred color to make sure the evil
people don’t win, and have the group of people who are disgusted by both
parties (A group which is about as big as either team red or blue), stay home
and not vote and the duopoly wins again, easy peasy.  A much worse scenario for them would be if
all those people voted 3rd party until it felt like there was a
viable choice for the reluctantly red and blue voters to switch to.


Voting 3rd party is not hard.  Just stand in line for a little while and avoid
circling team red or team blue.  You don’t
even have to know who you are voting for. 
Is it harder to be informed? 
Sure, but if the option is between doing nothing and standing in line
for a bit … I’ll stand in line for a bit.
I also think the parties aren’t as stable as we think.  Right now, a lot of people that are blue or
red are looking at their own parties and thinking “What a shitshow.  I wish there was a viable alternative”  If people start to get the idea that the
alternatives actually are viable, I don’t think it would take a lot to get
people to flee the two captured parties.

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#23
Quote: @badgervike said:
@BigAl99 said:
@JimmyinSD said:
It's funny how nobody went after him for all this lifetime of misdeeds when he was a democratic donor and supporter.  Only when he flipped teams does he become public enemy #1.  Seems to be a pretty common theme for team blue when their dogs bite the hand that feeds it.

Not really funny, but more the fallacy of your point.  His legal mentor Roy Cohn is probably unheard of to you, but did raise him well, loved him more than Fred did by many accounts.  Trump was named in litigation  around 3,500 times before he was anointed leader of the patriotic conservatives.  

https://www.abajournal.com/web/article/a...0-lawsuits

I'm guessing you know he (or his company) was the plaintiff in most of those.  Shocker..huh?  What are the odds of a long time, large New York Real Estate Developer and former Casino owner being involved in numerous lawsuits with subcontractors, repair/ maintenance, evictions, non-payment, etc.  

I guess, you think that's a good thing?  Write a book about it, and see how well it sells.


"As Zirin points out, Trump learned how to use the law from his
mentor, notorious lawyer Roy Cohn. Trump took Cohn’s scorched-earth
strategy to heart.

“Trump saw litigation as being only about winning,” Zirin writes. “He
sued at the drop of a hat. He sued for sport; he sued to achieve
control; and he sued to make a point. He sued as a means of destroying
or silencing those who crossed him. He became a plaintiff in chief.”

Zirin argues that Trump has shown a chronic scorn for the law. “All
this aberrant behavior would be problematic in a businessman,” he
writes. “But the implications of such conduct in a man who is the
president of the United States are nothing less than terrifying.”

Zirin is an accomplished litigator who has appeared in federal and
state courts around the nation. He was an assistant U.S. attorney for
the Southern District of New York under then-U.S. Attorney Robert M.
Morgenthau." "


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#24
Quote: @BigAl99 said:
@badgervike said:
@BigAl99 said:
@JimmyinSD said:
It's funny how nobody went after him for all this lifetime of misdeeds when he was a democratic donor and supporter.  Only when he flipped teams does he become public enemy #1.  Seems to be a pretty common theme for team blue when their dogs bite the hand that feeds it.

Not really funny, but more the fallacy of your point.  His legal mentor Roy Cohn is probably unheard of to you, but did raise him well, loved him more than Fred did by many accounts.  Trump was named in litigation  around 3,500 times before he was anointed leader of the patriotic conservatives.  

https://www.abajournal.com/web/article/a...0-lawsuits

I'm guessing you know he (or his company) was the plaintiff in most of those.  Shocker..huh?  What are the odds of a long time, large New York Real Estate Developer and former Casino owner being involved in numerous lawsuits with subcontractors, repair/ maintenance, evictions, non-payment, etc.  

I guess, you think that's a good thing?  Write a book about it, and see how well it sells.


"As Zirin points out, Trump learned how to use the law from his
mentor, notorious lawyer Roy Cohn. Trump took Cohn’s scorched-earth
strategy to heart.

“Trump saw litigation as being only about winning,” Zirin writes. “He
sued at the drop of a hat. He sued for sport; he sued to achieve
control; and he sued to make a point. He sued as a means of destroying
or silencing those who crossed him. He became a plaintiff in chief.”

Zirin argues that Trump has shown a chronic scorn for the law. “All
this aberrant behavior would be problematic in a businessman,” he
writes. “But the implications of such conduct in a man who is the
president of the United States are nothing less than terrifying.”

Zirin is an accomplished litigator who has appeared in federal and
state courts around the nation. He was an assistant U.S. attorney for
the Southern District of New York under then-U.S. Attorney Robert M.
Morgenthau." "


LOL....All that to be rich when he could have just spent his life in politics and had a coke head son sell access and act as a funnel for bribes and kick backs.

It's amazing that some think their guys shit doesn't stink or his crimes are less severe because of the color of his tie.

nobody thinks or says Trump is an alter boy, but he's a fuck ton more honest than the hierarchy of the Democrats and those pulling the strings on this administration.   At least Trumps actions were helping America vs the current regime just helping themselves and to hell with the country and it's tax payers. 
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#25
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@BigAl99 said:
@badgervike said:
@BigAl99 said:
@JimmyinSD said:
It's funny how nobody went after him for all this lifetime of misdeeds when he was a democratic donor and supporter.  Only when he flipped teams does he become public enemy #1.  Seems to be a pretty common theme for team blue when their dogs bite the hand that feeds it.

Not really funny, but more the fallacy of your point.  His legal mentor Roy Cohn is probably unheard of to you, but did raise him well, loved him more than Fred did by many accounts.  Trump was named in litigation  around 3,500 times before he was anointed leader of the patriotic conservatives.  

https://www.abajournal.com/web/article/a...0-lawsuits

I'm guessing you know he (or his company) was the plaintiff in most of those.  Shocker..huh?  What are the odds of a long time, large New York Real Estate Developer and former Casino owner being involved in numerous lawsuits with subcontractors, repair/ maintenance, evictions, non-payment, etc.  

I guess, you think that's a good thing?  Write a book about it, and see how well it sells.


"As Zirin points out, Trump learned how to use the law from his
mentor, notorious lawyer Roy Cohn. Trump took Cohn’s scorched-earth
strategy to heart.

“Trump saw litigation as being only about winning,” Zirin writes. “He
sued at the drop of a hat. He sued for sport; he sued to achieve
control; and he sued to make a point. He sued as a means of destroying
or silencing those who crossed him. He became a plaintiff in chief.”

Zirin argues that Trump has shown a chronic scorn for the law. “All
this aberrant behavior would be problematic in a businessman,” he
writes. “But the implications of such conduct in a man who is the
president of the United States are nothing less than terrifying.”

Zirin is an accomplished litigator who has appeared in federal and
state courts around the nation. He was an assistant U.S. attorney for
the Southern District of New York under then-U.S. Attorney Robert M.
Morgenthau." "


LOL....All that to be rich when he could have just spent his life in politics and had a coke head son sell access and act as a funnel for bribes and kick backs.

It's amazing that some think their guys shit doesn't stink or his crimes are less severe because of the color of his tie.

nobody thinks or says Trump is an alter boy, but he's a fuck ton more honest than the hierarchy of the Democrats and those pulling the strings on this administration.   At least Trumps actions were helping America vs the  and to hell with the country and it's tax payers. 
Your are so right, Jimmy your severe intellectual insight, circumvents all professional critique or fact.  Your particular assertions about "current regime just helping themselves" convinced me, I'm changing positions right now.  Thank you, you should run for office, you has have virtue, truth, a God loving guns, and all our welfare defined.  Once again thank you, if it wasn't for your lame football insight, I would call you a savior to western men.   
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#26
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@BigAl99 said:
@badgervike said:
@BigAl99 said:
@JimmyinSD said:
It's funny how nobody went after him for all this lifetime of misdeeds when he was a democratic donor and supporter.  Only when he flipped teams does he become public enemy #1.  Seems to be a pretty common theme for team blue when their dogs bite the hand that feeds it.

Not really funny, but more the fallacy of your point.  His legal mentor Roy Cohn is probably unheard of to you, but did raise him well, loved him more than Fred did by many accounts.  Trump was named in litigation  around 3,500 times before he was anointed leader of the patriotic conservatives.  

https://www.abajournal.com/web/article/a...0-lawsuits

I'm guessing you know he (or his company) was the plaintiff in most of those.  Shocker..huh?  What are the odds of a long time, large New York Real Estate Developer and former Casino owner being involved in numerous lawsuits with subcontractors, repair/ maintenance, evictions, non-payment, etc.  

I guess, you think that's a good thing?  Write a book about it, and see how well it sells.


"As Zirin points out, Trump learned how to use the law from his
mentor, notorious lawyer Roy Cohn. Trump took Cohn’s scorched-earth
strategy to heart.

“Trump saw litigation as being only about winning,” Zirin writes. “He
sued at the drop of a hat. He sued for sport; he sued to achieve
control; and he sued to make a point. He sued as a means of destroying
or silencing those who crossed him. He became a plaintiff in chief.”

Zirin argues that Trump has shown a chronic scorn for the law. “All
this aberrant behavior would be problematic in a businessman,” he
writes. “But the implications of such conduct in a man who is the
president of the United States are nothing less than terrifying.”

Zirin is an accomplished litigator who has appeared in federal and
state courts around the nation. He was an assistant U.S. attorney for
the Southern District of New York under then-U.S. Attorney Robert M.
Morgenthau." "


LOL....All that to be rich when he could have just spent his life in politics and had a coke head son sell access and act as a funnel for bribes and kick backs.

It's amazing that some think their guys shit doesn't stink or his crimes are less severe because of the color of his tie.

nobody thinks or says Trump is an alter boy, but he's a fuck ton more honest than the hierarchy of the Democrats and those pulling the strings on this administration.   At least Trumps actions were helping America vs the current regime just helping themselves and to hell with the country and it's tax payers. 
He's honest about grabbing women by the pussy.  I'm sure you, nor any other conservatives wouldn't care if he did that to your wife or daughter. 
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#27
Quote: @Skodin said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@BigAl99 said:
@badgervike said:
@BigAl99 said:
@JimmyinSD said:
It's funny how nobody went after him for all this lifetime of misdeeds when he was a democratic donor and supporter.  Only when he flipped teams does he become public enemy #1.  Seems to be a pretty common theme for team blue when their dogs bite the hand that feeds it.

Not really funny, but more the fallacy of your point.  His legal mentor Roy Cohn is probably unheard of to you, but did raise him well, loved him more than Fred did by many accounts.  Trump was named in litigation  around 3,500 times before he was anointed leader of the patriotic conservatives.  

https://www.abajournal.com/web/article/a...0-lawsuits

I'm guessing you know he (or his company) was the plaintiff in most of those.  Shocker..huh?  What are the odds of a long time, large New York Real Estate Developer and former Casino owner being involved in numerous lawsuits with subcontractors, repair/ maintenance, evictions, non-payment, etc.  

I guess, you think that's a good thing?  Write a book about it, and see how well it sells.


"As Zirin points out, Trump learned how to use the law from his
mentor, notorious lawyer Roy Cohn. Trump took Cohn’s scorched-earth
strategy to heart.

“Trump saw litigation as being only about winning,” Zirin writes. “He
sued at the drop of a hat. He sued for sport; he sued to achieve
control; and he sued to make a point. He sued as a means of destroying
or silencing those who crossed him. He became a plaintiff in chief.”

Zirin argues that Trump has shown a chronic scorn for the law. “All
this aberrant behavior would be problematic in a businessman,” he
writes. “But the implications of such conduct in a man who is the
president of the United States are nothing less than terrifying.”

Zirin is an accomplished litigator who has appeared in federal and
state courts around the nation. He was an assistant U.S. attorney for
the Southern District of New York under then-U.S. Attorney Robert M.
Morgenthau." "


LOL....All that to be rich when he could have just spent his life in politics and had a coke head son sell access and act as a funnel for bribes and kick backs.

It's amazing that some think their guys shit doesn't stink or his crimes are less severe because of the color of his tie.

nobody thinks or says Trump is an alter boy, but he's a fuck ton more honest than the hierarchy of the Democrats and those pulling the strings on this administration.   At least Trumps actions were helping America vs the current regime just helping themselves and to hell with the country and it's tax payers. 
He's honest about grabbing women by the pussy.  I'm sure you, nor any other conservatives wouldn't care if he did that to your wife or daughter. 
Has he actually done it?   Has he been convicted of sex crimes?  If this characterization was legit I am sure he wouldn't have the following and support he does.  He says stupid things,  vs most Dems who are doing stupid/criminal things.  I didn't wany to have to vote for him,   I preferred  several other candidates to bringing back Trump,   primarily because of his character issues,  but he is to strong a candidate now and the reason he is such a strong candidate is the left keep getting further and further left and are alienating more and more of the middle leaning voters.

 Be mad at Trump all your want but it's your party's mindless migration stage left and progressively communist policy direction is what makes Trump palatable to most of his supporters.  Short of more election sabotage the dems will be the one responsible for another Trump presidency,  just like the first time.
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#28
Quote: @BigAl99 said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@BigAl99 said:
@badgervike said:
@BigAl99 said:
@JimmyinSD said:
It's funny how nobody went after him for all this lifetime of misdeeds when he was a democratic donor and supporter.  Only when he flipped teams does he become public enemy #1.  Seems to be a pretty common theme for team blue when their dogs bite the hand that feeds it.

Not really funny, but more the fallacy of your point.  His legal mentor Roy Cohn is probably unheard of to you, but did raise him well, loved him more than Fred did by many accounts.  Trump was named in litigation  around 3,500 times before he was anointed leader of the patriotic conservatives.  

https://www.abajournal.com/web/article/a...0-lawsuits

I'm guessing you know he (or his company) was the plaintiff in most of those.  Shocker..huh?  What are the odds of a long time, large New York Real Estate Developer and former Casino owner being involved in numerous lawsuits with subcontractors, repair/ maintenance, evictions, non-payment, etc.  

I guess, you think that's a good thing?  Write a book about it, and see how well it sells.


"As Zirin points out, Trump learned how to use the law from his
mentor, notorious lawyer Roy Cohn. Trump took Cohn’s scorched-earth
strategy to heart.

“Trump saw litigation as being only about winning,” Zirin writes. “He
sued at the drop of a hat. He sued for sport; he sued to achieve
control; and he sued to make a point. He sued as a means of destroying
or silencing those who crossed him. He became a plaintiff in chief.”

Zirin argues that Trump has shown a chronic scorn for the law. “All
this aberrant behavior would be problematic in a businessman,” he
writes. “But the implications of such conduct in a man who is the
president of the United States are nothing less than terrifying.”

Zirin is an accomplished litigator who has appeared in federal and
state courts around the nation. He was an assistant U.S. attorney for
the Southern District of New York under then-U.S. Attorney Robert M.
Morgenthau." "


LOL....All that to be rich when he could have just spent his life in politics and had a coke head son sell access and act as a funnel for bribes and kick backs.

It's amazing that some think their guys shit doesn't stink or his crimes are less severe because of the color of his tie.

nobody thinks or says Trump is an alter boy, but he's a fuck ton more honest than the hierarchy of the Democrats and those pulling the strings on this administration.   At least Trumps actions were helping America vs the  and to hell with the country and it's tax payers. 
Your are so right, Jimmy your severe intellectual insight, circumvents all professional critique or fact.  Your particular assertions about "current regime just helping themselves" convinced me, I'm changing positions right now.  Thank you, you should run for office, you has have virtue, truth, a God loving guns, and all our welfare defined.  Once again thank you, if it wasn't for your lame football insight, I would call you a savior to western men.   
Then there's our resident self professed smartest guy on the short bus once again resorting to personal insults when he's out of party provided story lines to regurgitate.

Piss off Al.  
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#30
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@BigAl99 said:
@badgervike said:
@BigAl99 said:
@JimmyinSD said:
It's funny how nobody went after him for all this lifetime of misdeeds when he was a democratic donor and supporter.  Only when he flipped teams does he become public enemy #1.  Seems to be a pretty common theme for team blue when their dogs bite the hand that feeds it.

Not really funny, but more the fallacy of your point.  His legal mentor Roy Cohn is probably unheard of to you, but did raise him well, loved him more than Fred did by many accounts.  Trump was named in litigation  around 3,500 times before he was anointed leader of the patriotic conservatives.  

https://www.abajournal.com/web/article/a...0-lawsuits

I'm guessing you know he (or his company) was the plaintiff in most of those.  Shocker..huh?  What are the odds of a long time, large New York Real Estate Developer and former Casino owner being involved in numerous lawsuits with subcontractors, repair/ maintenance, evictions, non-payment, etc.  

I guess, you think that's a good thing?  Write a book about it, and see how well it sells.


"As Zirin points out, Trump learned how to use the law from his
mentor, notorious lawyer Roy Cohn. Trump took Cohn’s scorched-earth
strategy to heart.

“Trump saw litigation as being only about winning,” Zirin writes. “He
sued at the drop of a hat. He sued for sport; he sued to achieve
control; and he sued to make a point. He sued as a means of destroying
or silencing those who crossed him. He became a plaintiff in chief.”

Zirin argues that Trump has shown a chronic scorn for the law. “All
this aberrant behavior would be problematic in a businessman,” he
writes. “But the implications of such conduct in a man who is the
president of the United States are nothing less than terrifying.”

Zirin is an accomplished litigator who has appeared in federal and
state courts around the nation. He was an assistant U.S. attorney for
the Southern District of New York under then-U.S. Attorney Robert M.
Morgenthau." "


LOL....All that to be rich when he could have just spent his life in politics and had a coke head son sell access and act as a funnel for bribes and kick backs.

It's amazing that some think their guys shit doesn't stink or his crimes are less severe because of the color of his tie.

nobody thinks or says Trump is an alter boy, but he's a fuck ton more honest than the hierarchy of the Democrats and those pulling the strings on this administration.   At least Trumps actions were helping America vs the current regime just helping themselves and to hell with the country and it's tax payers. 
WOW...I'm sorry, but when you say that the sunkist messiah, the loosest-lipped babbling buffoon in the western hemisphere, is "more honest" than anyone else...I have to ask:

are you getting the help you need?

While I'll be the first the throw the duopoly on the stand for their constant lies, manipulations, and gaslighting...the redcaps' assclown idol can't seem to tell the fuggin' truth for more than a handful of sentences, is showing to be as mentally gone as our vacuous president, and has been the be-all, end-all of spineless little biatch-bois when it comes to whining that he shouldn't be accountable and/or should have immunity for...everything.

How many lies does it fuggin' take? Seriously? His drooling fan club has already proven to be the far extreme of delusional ("BIDEN CAUSED THE VAX AND THE LOCKDOWN! wait...Trump did that? ummm...uh...EVERYTHING IS FAUCI'S FAULT!!!!), he's tripped over his own tongue trying to excuse the "fine people" among the white nationalists that hold up their nazi salutes to his picture, and has almost destroyed the gop via cannibalization.

He added $8 trillion to the deficit, so...yeah, don't go there. He pissed on our allies and practically offered rubs-and-tugs to our enemies.

I can't begin to fathom his followers. I just can't imagine it.

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