I think the ideal off season involves having a good QB and getting
like 4 starters out of the draft, meaning guys are dropping and us getting
lucky because teams missed them.
That’s not hardly a plan though, but something more
tangible:
- Resign
Cousins to a 2 year deal that’s probably something like $60M guaranteed
with $20M more in incentives and an out after 1 year if he’s unable to
really perform due to the injury, but gives him security if he’s healthy.
- Resign
Hunter to a good contract that you can get out of in like 3 years max.
- Resign
JJ to a contract that doesn’t make me cringe a lot.
- Resign
Davenport to be our 3rd OLB for like $6M prove it deal.
- Draft
a QB with our first or second pick without giving up the farm to get them.
I’m skeptical that we’re going to
get one of the top 3 guys, so I just don’t see how it makes sense to
invest multiple high picks in getting the 5th best prospect. I’d rather draft the 5th best
prospect 2 years in a row, than invest 3+ picks into the 4th
best guy. If there’s a guy you feel
really confident in that fits your system and you’re sure that everyone
else is misreading, sure go after that guy, but I think the list of guys
that fail after teams traded up for them is probably just as long as guys
that succeeded. This guys probably
going to have some flaws and need to sit for a year. End of the first makes sense to me.
- Have to get a second impact edge or DL.
- Have to get a quality RB that can both run and block at a low cost.
- Have to bring in another competent starting caliber CB.
6-8, Here you are really dependent on
how you get that QB, ie. Did you blow all your draft picks? You’re probably going to have to pick up a CB
or an Edge in free agency if you draft a QB, unless you get really lucky. I think if you blow a ton of picks on a QB you're probably building for 2025 rather than 2024, so you're more going for overall roster quality than win now as you'll have to be more frugal in FA to make up for the missing draft picks.
Quote: @medaille said:
I think the ideal off season involves having a good QB and getting
like 4 starters out of the draft, meaning guys are dropping and us getting
lucky because teams missed them.
That’s not hardly a plan though, but something more
tangible:
- Resign
Cousins to a 2 year deal that’s probably something like $60M guaranteed
with $20M more in incentives and an out after 1 year if he’s unable to
really perform due to the injury, but gives him security if he’s healthy.
- Resign
Hunter to a good contract that you can get out of in like 3 years max.
- Resign
JJ to a contract that doesn’t make me cringe a lot.
- Resign
Davenport to be our 3rd OLB for like $6M prove it deal.
- Draft
a QB with our first or second pick without giving up the farm to get them.
I’m skeptical that we’re going to
get one of the top 3 guys, so I just don’t see how it makes sense to
invest multiple high picks in getting the 5th best prospect. I’d rather draft the 5th best
prospect 2 years in a row, than invest 3+ picks into the 4th
best guy. If there’s a guy you feel
really confident in that fits your system and you’re sure that everyone
else is misreading, sure go after that guy, but I think the list of guys
that fail after teams traded up for them is probably just as long as guys
that succeeded. This guys probably
going to have some flaws and need to sit for a year. End of the first makes sense to me.
- Have to get a second impact edge or DL.
- Have to get a quality RB that can both run and block at a low cost.
- Have to bring in another competent starting caliber CB.
6-8, Here you are really dependent on
how you get that QB, ie. Did you blow all your draft picks? You’re probably going to have to pick up a CB
or an Edge in free agency if you draft a QB, unless you get really lucky. I think if you blow a ton of picks on a QB you're probably building for 2025 rather than 2024, so you're more going for overall roster quality than win now as you'll have to be more frugal in FA to make up for the missing draft picks.
It would cost us half as much to move from 42 to 16 as it would to move from 11 to 3. Draft your edge at 11 (there are three with strong value in the 8-15 range--Verse, Turner and Latu). Draft QB4 at 16. Sign Cousins, Hunter and a pass rushing DT in free agency. Use a 4th or FA for a RB.
That gives you Cousins, JJ, Addison, Hock, Darrisaw and O'Neill on offense. Your front seven now has Hunter, Wilkins (FA1), Phillips and Turner (D1). This is a team that would be serious contenders in '24 with a succession plan at QB in place—not to mention $130M in cap space in '25—to keep them there.
Broncos at 12 and Raiders at 13 will most likely take QB4 and 5. After that the pickings get slim at QB
Quote: @Bullazin said:
Broncos at 12 and Raiders at 13 will most likely take QB4 and 5. After that the pickings get slim at QB
I wouldn't say it's likely, but it's very possible, assuming they don't get their QB in FA. Ponder year notwithstanding, at the end of the day, QBs tend to go where they're supposed to. Last year, for example, there were a half dozen QB-needy teams, including the Vikings, who passed on Will Levis and Hendon Hooker, despite all the middle-1st buzz for both.
on Cousins: It will be very difficult to have a reasonable cap number without void years. That’s because Kwesi wanted relief last season. In my opinion it was a dumb idea, but what’s done is done. Cousins’s ask of 2/90m is the market. It would put him in 8 to 9 range for QB’s this year before any adjustments. Contrary to popular belief, he’s taken team friendly deals the past two. I’m sure he will again, but most of you have unrealistic expectations when it comes to paying QB’s in the NFL.
I’d like to see him resigned. It’s difficult to know the impact of the injury, but we should rememver he was performing at a top 5 level when he went down. He is also an important piece if you want to give a QB of the future his best shot at success.
This draft, it is not inconceivable that we will see 4 QB’s go in the first ten picks. There are quite a few teams under pressure to upgrade or have a huge need at the position. If they like a QB, I suspect a trade down may not be in the cards.
I’d like to see:
1 Cousins resigned
2. Hunter resigned
3. a top disruptive D lineman in free agency
4. QB of the future in the first.
5. if money allows, a veteran corner
Quote: @Bullazin said:
Broncos at 12 and Raiders at 13 will most likely take QB4 and 5. After that the pickings get slim at QB
Good point, although you have to wonder if the Raiders think they can win with Aiden O'Connell moving forward as he flashed a little as a rookie and Pierce really likes him. Both of these teams though would also be prime landing spots if the Bears moved off Justin Fields. Going to be an interesting offseason with lots of intrigue
Quote: @Bullazin said:
Broncos at 12 and Raiders at 13 will most likely take QB4 and 5. After that the pickings get slim at QB
Quote: @Bullazin said:
Broncos at 12 and Raiders at 13 will most likely take QB4 and 5. After that the pickings get slim at QB
I’ve seen a few mocks with both of those taking either McCarthy or Nix. If McCarthy is the Vikings preferred QB they may have to take him at 11, that is if he makes it out of the top 10.
Quote: @supafreak84 said:
@ Bullazin said:
Broncos at 12 and Raiders at 13 will most likely take QB4 and 5. After that the pickings get slim at QB
Good point, although you have to wonder if the Raiders think they can win with Aiden O'Connell moving forward as he flashed a little as a rookie and Pierce really likes him. Both of these teams though would also be prime landing spots if the Bears moved off Justin Fields. Going to be an interesting offseason with lots of intrigue
Raiders signed ex Bears OC Luke Getsy to be their new OC, so I think that probably rules them out for Fields. I think Fields winds up in Pittsburgh most likely, or possibly in Minnesota.
Quote: @VikeMike52 said:
@ Bullazin said:
Broncos at 12 and Raiders at 13 will most likely take QB4 and 5. After that the pickings get slim at QB
Quote: @Bullazin said:
Broncos at 12 and Raiders at 13 will most likely take QB4 and 5. After that the pickings get slim at QB
I’ve seen a few mocks with both of those taking either McCarthy or Nix. If McCarthy is the Vikings preferred QB they may have to take him at 11, that is if he makes it out of the top 10.
I am betting one of those 2 or possibly somebody even further down makes a play to jump ahead of the Vikes for the best of the rest.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ VikeMike52 said:
@ Bullazin said:
Broncos at 12 and Raiders at 13 will most likely take QB4 and 5. After that the pickings get slim at QB
Quote: @Bullazin said:
Broncos at 12 and Raiders at 13 will most likely take QB4 and 5. After that the pickings get slim at QB
I’ve seen a few mocks with both of those taking either McCarthy or Nix. If McCarthy is the Vikings preferred QB they may have to take him at 11, that is if he makes it out of the top 10.
I am betting one of those 2 or possibly somebody even further down makes a play to jump ahead of the Vikes for the best of the rest.
I think that is very possible.
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