Quote: @dadevike said:
They can let him walk but then they have to replace him. Is $20M/year too expensive for a DE/OLB like Hunter or is it because of his age and injury history? The Jags and Panthers have younger players (Allen and Burns) who may hit FA, but they are going to be vey expensive. It may be the most important position on defense and may be the hardest to fill. We have a very good player at that spot now. Are we sure we want to create a hole there?
It's weird how easy some think this is.
Quote: @purplefaithful said:
Aaron Schatz predicted that Minnesota will allow superstar edge rusher Danielle Hunter to leave in free agency. From ESPN: The Vikings will allow edge rusher Danielle Hunter to leave in free agency despite the fact he set a career-high with 15.5 sacks in 2023. Hunter's cost will be too expensive going into his age-30 season (likely over $20 million per year), and Vikings general manager Kwesi Adofo-Mensah will look to get younger on defense.
That would be an understandable decision by the Vikings.
Hunter's value will never be higher than it is right now after coming off a season where he totaled 16.5 sacks and four forced fumbles.
But as Schatz notes, Hunter will turn 30 next season. And he missed all but seven games from 2020 to 2021. That injury history combined with his age would make it tough to commit to giving Hunter a lucrative longterm contract.
Hunter, who can't be franchised tagged by the Vikings this offseason because of the contract he signed last offseason, said on Sunday after Minnesota's loss to the Detroit Lions that he'd love to stay with the Vikings.
Hunter might have to give the Vikings a discount if he's going to stick around in Minnesota.
https://atozsports.com/minnesota/espn-predicts-vikings-will-lose-key-player-news/
If they don't want to commit big money to Hunter for age and injury history concerns, then wouldn't the same logic apply to Cousins? If you take away Hunter, release Harry, let a lot of the underperforming Defensive Free Agents walk, then you are in a full rebuild which is why it makes zero sense to resign Cousins IMO. What concerns me is that the Vikings will be in the same position as the Wild in 2024 if they decide on the full rebuild youth movement. $15 million in dead cap for Hunter, and $28.5 million in dead cap for Cousins. That definitely hurts what you can do in Free Agency to fill holes.
Quote: @TBro said:
@ purplefaithful said:
Aaron Schatz predicted that Minnesota will allow superstar edge rusher Danielle Hunter to leave in free agency. From ESPN: The Vikings will allow edge rusher Danielle Hunter to leave in free agency despite the fact he set a career-high with 15.5 sacks in 2023. Hunter's cost will be too expensive going into his age-30 season (likely over $20 million per year), and Vikings general manager Kwesi Adofo-Mensah will look to get younger on defense.
That would be an understandable decision by the Vikings.
Hunter's value will never be higher than it is right now after coming off a season where he totaled 16.5 sacks and four forced fumbles.
But as Schatz notes, Hunter will turn 30 next season. And he missed all but seven games from 2020 to 2021. That injury history combined with his age would make it tough to commit to giving Hunter a lucrative longterm contract.
Hunter, who can't be franchised tagged by the Vikings this offseason because of the contract he signed last offseason, said on Sunday after Minnesota's loss to the Detroit Lions that he'd love to stay with the Vikings.
Hunter might have to give the Vikings a discount if he's going to stick around in Minnesota.
https://atozsports.com/minnesota/espn-predicts-vikings-will-lose-key-player-news/
If they don't want to commit big money to Hunter for age and injury history concerns, then wouldn't the same logic apply to Cousins? If you take away Hunter, release Harry, let a lot of the underperforming Defensive Free Agents walk, then you are in a full rebuild which is why it makes zero sense to resign Cousins IMO. What concerns me is that the Vikings will be in the same position as the Wild in 2024 if they decide on the full rebuild youth movement. $15 million in dead cap for Hunter, and $28.5 million in dead cap for Cousins. That definitely hurts what you can do in Free Agency to fill holes.
I think it's the other way around. It's all about the QB. If for whatever reason they are unable to come to terms with Cousins, that will flip the rebuild switch and they likely won't try to resign Hunter.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
which is exactly why he should have been moved in season. even if you only got day 2 picks, they needed to get something from him.
They got a hell of a season out of him.
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
which is exactly why he should have been moved in season. even if you only got day 2 picks, they needed to get something from him.
They got a hell of a season out of him.
and they are home for the holidays as a result, now they get almost nothing in return ( what will likely be a 3rd round pick in 2025) so essentially a 4th rounder this year. Got to think they could have gotten a 2nd or 3rd this year, and if they couldnt.... is he really worth the crazy money that is being bantered about?
Free agency starts a little over two months from now. Unless the Vikings want to lock up Hunter, or Kirk for that matter, prior to f.a., both are going to get to test the market and any contracts will be in competition with whatever other teams may make offers to them.
The idea that either of them are a lock to return is not realistic imo.
Sounds to me like both Cousins & Hunter would like to return, usually that’s a positive step in making it actually happen…
Quote: @Kentis said:
Sounds to me like both Cousins & Hunter would like to return, usually that’s a positive step in making it actually happen…
Like to return, but on what terms... its easy for both sides to say they want the same thing when they aren't at the negotiating table, this is all about saving face on both sides if this doesn't come to fruition.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ TBro said:
@ purplefaithful said:
Aaron Schatz predicted that Minnesota will allow superstar edge rusher Danielle Hunter to leave in free agency. From ESPN: The Vikings will allow edge rusher Danielle Hunter to leave in free agency despite the fact he set a career-high with 15.5 sacks in 2023. Hunter's cost will be too expensive going into his age-30 season (likely over $20 million per year), and Vikings general manager Kwesi Adofo-Mensah will look to get younger on defense.
That would be an understandable decision by the Vikings.
Hunter's value will never be higher than it is right now after coming off a season where he totaled 16.5 sacks and four forced fumbles.
But as Schatz notes, Hunter will turn 30 next season. And he missed all but seven games from 2020 to 2021. That injury history combined with his age would make it tough to commit to giving Hunter a lucrative longterm contract.
Hunter, who can't be franchised tagged by the Vikings this offseason because of the contract he signed last offseason, said on Sunday after Minnesota's loss to the Detroit Lions that he'd love to stay with the Vikings.
Hunter might have to give the Vikings a discount if he's going to stick around in Minnesota.
https://atozsports.com/minnesota/espn-predicts-vikings-will-lose-key-player-news/
If they don't want to commit big money to Hunter for age and injury history concerns, then wouldn't the same logic apply to Cousins? If you take away Hunter, release Harry, let a lot of the underperforming Defensive Free Agents walk, then you are in a full rebuild which is why it makes zero sense to resign Cousins IMO. What concerns me is that the Vikings will be in the same position as the Wild in 2024 if they decide on the full rebuild youth movement. $15 million in dead cap for Hunter, and $28.5 million in dead cap for Cousins. That definitely hurts what you can do in Free Agency to fill holes.
I think it's the other way around. It's all about the QB. If for whatever reason they are unable to come to terms with Cousins, that will flip the rebuild switch and they likely won't try to resign Hunter.
Yah, it starts with KC...If that goes South? The full re-build is on.
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